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« on: March 21, 2010, 11:41:39 AM »

Live DTD 20/20

19 players remain, our table is 6 handed at this time. 16 places paid.

We are 3 hands back from a break, in the last level the 2 chippys tangled in a pot with one going busto and leaving oppo in this pot 370k.

Avg stack is 85k, my stack 50.9k, blinds 3/6k 600 ante. Last 2 hands oppo has opened for 120k, and scooped the blinds and antes both times. (the next biggest stack at the table is 140kish) Oppo's image is very aggro, previous to this he was raising 2.4bb... laying down to 60/70% 3 bets and defo the most active player at the table.

Hand in question, oppo is utg and does his now standard open for 120k. Its folded round to me on the button with  three clubs.

The sb (90k) and bb (55k) are both tight, who are only going to get involved with a huge holding. So my line is, am i marginally ahead of oppo and is this a good/bad spot?

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2010, 12:16:58 PM »

if you arent bothered about cashing then id snap call

certainly nothing wrong with it
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2010, 12:54:56 PM »

120k?
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2010, 01:04:01 PM »

120k?

its the bubble he is setting everyone all in
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 01:48:39 PM »

I always look to the upper pay echelons, this has cost me in the past though with 2 UKIPT seats up top in this I wasn't looking to min cash (which I did). The reason I post is I felt its a decent spot, though when the cards were flipped, oppo muttered under his breath 'chit call'.

I've enjoyed playing against said oppo in the past and i rate his game, results prove this. Is this a nit call? or is he just cheesed that someone has stood up to him? FWIW, he showed and i scoop.

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 02:14:12 PM »

I pass here.
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2010, 02:21:02 PM »

I probably pass here myself, though I don't mind the call, esp if he's done this multiple times. Assuming he has some sort of standards for pushing tho I'm not sure A3 plays brilliantly against his range.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2010, 02:25:02 PM »

Assuming he has some sort of standards for pushing tho I'm not sure A3 plays brilliantly against his range.

it doesn't play brilliantly against his range even if he hasn't looked
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2010, 02:28:05 PM »

Assuming he has some sort of standards for pushing tho I'm not sure A3 plays brilliantly against his range.

it doesn't play brilliantly against his range even if he hasn't looked

I suspected as much. Don't have stove on me. What % is it against random? Suspect it's slightly over 50%?
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2010, 02:29:54 PM »

55.845 %
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2010, 02:32:59 PM »

55.845 %

Cheers. If I know the guy has a random hand then I don't mind getting the money in here. Hand is a slight favourite, plus blinds and antes to beef up our odds even more. Doubt he has a random hand in this spot tho. But I still reckon it might be ever so slightly +ev.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2010, 02:43:53 PM »

Assuming he has some sort of standards for pushing tho I'm not sure A3 plays brilliantly against his range.

it doesn't play brilliantly against his range even if he hasn't looked

This is exactly why I said I'd pass pre. We're on the button which means we've just passed the blinds and have a whole round to pick up a better hand where maniac is likely to be doing the same stuff.

Whilst blinds may be tight, they must be a consideration behind you aswell.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2010, 02:46:06 PM »

Oppo has shown down J9, 75 and q10 in previous hands where hes been pot committed. This was a major contributing factor to my play. I suspect hes going to raise everyhand unopened to him to this new 120k raise, oppo has possibly chatted with his pals at the break on how to steamroll the table.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2010, 02:46:41 PM »

Assuming he has some sort of standards for pushing tho I'm not sure A3 plays brilliantly against his range.

it doesn't play brilliantly against his range even if he hasn't looked

 

erm ok
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2010, 02:47:42 PM »

Assuming he has some sort of standards for pushing tho I'm not sure A3 plays brilliantly against his range.

it doesn't play brilliantly against his range even if he hasn't looked

 

erm ok


I don't get this guy? Think Gatso was spot on. We're likely to be ahead but not by much.
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