What was I thinking...how bad did i play this!! I wanted him to think I had hit the flop so check called the flop with the intention of going allin on the turn but with another 6 and the possibility of him having a king or a 6 I couldnt do it :-( So why did I call the turn? I still thought I was ahead as this player was pretty active/aggresive and something told me he hadnt hit but I bottled it when he went allin.
He said in the chatbox he had nothing..of course he is going to say that anyway.
Feeling bad that i played that game like an amateur.
a 6 I couldnt do it :-( So why did I call the turn? I still thought I was ahead as this player was pretty active/aggresive and something told me he hadnt hit but I bottled it when he went allin.
He said in the chatbox he had nothing..of course he is going to say that anyway.
Feeling bad that i played that game like an amateur.
There's two main mistakes here suzanne, but don't feel bad about it. You reognize there may be a mistake, post the hand here and are asking for comments. This gives you a leg up on half the people at the table already.
The first mistake is the plan you're talking about to get it in on the turn. That's not the line we took right enough but I have to point out that it's a bad plan and the wrong way to think about this hand.
If we get it in on the turn on this board, we're turning our hand into a bluff. That is to say, we're not going to get called unless we're beaten, we might as well have 32o.
We don't of course, we have JJ. There's some showdown value here, it's the sort of hand we want to think about calling off our opponents bluffs with and make money that may. He can't bluff if you bluff first though.
The fundamental thing about poker strategy is that there's usually only two reasons to bet.
Either we bet for value. ie we think opponent will call with a worse hand than you have.
Or we bluff, ie we think that opponent will fold a better hand than we have.
Which leaves a decent amount of check calling to be done. This stands opposed to a lot of outdated and simplistic advice that you always need to be the aggressor. Aggression is vital right enough, but checking and calling needs to be a part of your game too.
The hand history is a bit higgeldy piggeldy. I read it as we're in position here and he donk bets into us on the turn is this right?
As an aside, if he checks the turn, I think the line should definately be to check behind for pot control, and snap off a bet he makes on the river as it'll frequently be a bluff.The second mistake is that when he bets this much on the turn, we haven't recognized that the desicion we have to make is for all our chips.
If we call, we think he's bluffing a reasonable amount of the time and our JJ is good. Nothing much changes on the river in this situation, and so what we should be doing on the turn is deciding whether to make two calls.
If we call the turn we have to call the river. (He may check the river, we'd just check behind as he's probably got a weak King if he takes that line and he's not going to fold)
As another aside, I probably fold the turn against a random, would need a specific read that opponent is recklessly aggresive to get it all in here. If you want some good news, I play it pre flop and on the flop the same as you.
Hope this helps, good luck with the rest of your games.
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