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« Reply #435 on: May 10, 2010, 06:55:17 PM » |
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« Reply #436 on: May 10, 2010, 07:04:22 PM » |
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Now that's how politics should be debated/argued/shouted about  |
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« Reply #437 on: May 10, 2010, 07:05:53 PM » |
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I quite like that brown is now in his second term without being elected and if we go liblab he'll be followed by an unelected pm. democracy in action
I wish ppl wld stop saying this - we don't have primeminesterial elections in this country. So the words "unelected pm" are completely meaningless. okay I quite like that brown is now in his second term without ever receiving a mandate from the electorate to lead the country and if we go liblab he'll be followed by another pm who hasn't received a mandate from the electorate to lead the country. democracy in action
better? this John Major & Alex Douglas Hume say  that's completely lost me. major got the largest number of votes ever didn't he? |
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« Reply #438 on: May 10, 2010, 07:07:46 PM » |
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Who likes AV? Makes no sense to me. As I understand it everyone's first choice gets counted and if no-one has >50% then the last place candidate is eliminated and the peeps that voted for them have their 2nd choice votes counted instead.
So you count the second choice votes of the craziest people first. Is that how it works?
Probs good for the Tories in a lot of places, UKIP voters 2nd choice (presumably Tory) would be counted before the LibDem voters 2nd choice (presumably Labour)
This link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8644480.stm has an estimate based on results and polls for how the main 2 alternatives would have affected the 2005 result. |
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Jon "the British cowboy" Woodfield
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« Reply #439 on: May 10, 2010, 07:08:34 PM » |
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Hahaha that argument was quality, its hard to win v campbell though as he's a great PR man and able to keep cool under pressure.
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« Reply #440 on: May 10, 2010, 07:13:35 PM » |
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Pmsl! GG Boulton
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« Reply #441 on: May 10, 2010, 07:14:10 PM » |
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I quite like that brown is now in his second term without being elected and if we go liblab he'll be followed by an unelected pm. democracy in action
I wish ppl wld stop saying this - we don't have primeminesterial elections in this country. So the words "unelected pm" are completely meaningless. You may technically be correct, but that still doesn't stop it pissing people off and causing resentment against him because of it. In my eyes he is unelected too, I didn't mind Blair either tbh so its not because I'm anti labour. |
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« Reply #442 on: May 10, 2010, 07:15:27 PM » |
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Agree about Brown being 'unelected' for what it's worth.
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« Reply #443 on: May 10, 2010, 07:18:53 PM » |
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apart from the obv fact that it'd never happen is there anything to stop a conlab coalition happening if they get fed up with clegg?
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« Reply #444 on: May 10, 2010, 07:27:11 PM » |
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apart from the obv fact that it'd never happen is there anything to stop a conlab coalition happening if they get fed up with clegg?
Nah Labour are in metagame mode - they've got rid of Brown so they are already positioning themselves for the next election that prob won't be far away as it looks like libdems aren't getting what they want from the cons. |
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« Reply #445 on: May 10, 2010, 07:29:16 PM » |
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apart from the obv fact that it'd never happen is there anything to stop a conlab coalition happening if they get fed up with clegg?
Nah Labour are in metagame mode - they've got rid of Brown so they are already positioning themselves for the next election that prob won't be far away as it looks like libdems aren't getting what they want from the cons. I meant constitutionally. is there something like the MMC for politics to stop them forming a super party |
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« Reply #446 on: May 10, 2010, 07:32:02 PM » |
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« Reply #447 on: May 10, 2010, 07:32:50 PM » |
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Boulton is on suppaaaaa tilt lmao
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« Reply #448 on: May 10, 2010, 07:33:53 PM » |
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apart from the obv fact that it'd never happen is there anything to stop a conlab coalition happening if they get fed up with clegg?
Nah Labour are in metagame mode - they've got rid of Brown so they are already positioning themselves for the next election that prob won't be far away as it looks like libdems aren't getting what they want from the cons. I meant constitutionally. is there something like the MMC for politics to stop them forming a super party No, but they'd lose core support and splinter parties would rise up to take the place of the opposition |
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« Reply #449 on: May 10, 2010, 07:35:24 PM » |
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Who likes AV? Makes no sense to me. As I understand it everyone's first choice gets counted and if no-one has >50% then the last place candidate is eliminated and the peeps that voted for them have their 2nd choice votes counted instead.
So you count the second choice votes of the craziest people first. Is that how it works?
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This link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8644480.stm has an estimate based on results and polls for how the main 2 alternatives would have affected the 2005 result. Interesting that AV doesn't seem to alter the seats too much..........I guess that's why the Tories have just offered it to the libdems! |
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