We could be Heroes, just for one final table.

[TightEnd]

It is the first hand of a ten handed final table

5 are paid

blinds are 600-1200

average is 31,000, there are two smallish stacks. Chip leader only 50,000 or so

Hero makes it 3,100 in the cut off with  . Stack 38,000

Small blind, Laggy, aware. Has been tangling with hero all night, and is looking to put one over on him from friendly comments that have been made after a couple of bluffs have been shown fron Hero. Hero and Villain know each other well. Villain's range is felt to be pretty wide here

Stack 44,000. 3 bets to 8,500.

Hero feels they are two of the five players on the final demonstrably better than the others.

Hero, given the reads and dynamics, should do what?

[GreekStein]

pass but I don't mind if you ram it up him.

[BulldozerD]

probably pass this 10 handed

if you feel dynamic is such that he has wide range don't mind jamming but rarely find myself doing it in live games where i can find better spots to do so

[GreekStein]

probably pass this 10 handed

if you feel dynamic is such that he has wide range don't mind jamming but rarely find myself doing it in live games where i can find better spots to do so

good post.

this to a T tighty imo.

[byronkincaid]

calling and getting all in on flop with any pair, flushdraw, straightdraw, gutshot and overcards etc ist nicht gut?

[Claw75]

meh I'm not passing - call and see the flop

[buzzharvey22]

dont call whatever you go and youve played it fine imo

[zzBlizzardzz]

I'm calling. Let's see a flop. No ace Im betting 5200.

[Blatch]

Pls dont ever flat call in this spot, its simply horrid.

If you think he is doing this incred wide then shove, how light do you think he would call your 4 bet jam?

[jakally]

Against a wide range I think it's a jam.
Don't like a call - too often he will bet out, and you are either folding, or sticking it in with K high, and little / no FE.

[outragous76]

its a jam for me

bink, go on and win

[Claw75]

Pretty big 3bet rings the odd alarm bell imo, what's his usual sizing? I'm still very much inclined to shove here, calling is not gonna work out well for you most of the time (unless you wanna invent a new move called something like a stop-and-waitaminute-and-go, calling and check shoving any flop cos with KQs you're pretty much always gonna have 6 outs or more right?) and folding seems far too tight.

we have position on the flop though

[Cf]

Is there a RA?

[TightEnd]

Is there a RA?

yes 100

[buzzharvey22]

Is there a RA?

yes 100

jam