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« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2005, 02:18:49 AM »

all my comments are for heads up play, I thought that the Snoop Dog of Solihull was playing againts one opponent only.
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« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2005, 02:20:17 AM »

all my comments are for heads up play, I thought that the Snoop Dog of Solihull was playing againts one opponent only.

i am playing against 1 opponet tonight AMSTEL LIGHT, evryone to the Bahamas for free beer on the rookie!
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« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2005, 02:23:02 AM »

all my comments are for heads up play, I thought that the Snoop Dog of Solihull was playing againts one opponent only.

i am playing against 1 opponet tonight AMSTEL LIGHT, evryone to the Bahamas for free beer on the rookie!

Cmon. How many u had?  Cool
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« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2005, 02:24:01 AM »

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« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2005, 02:25:50 AM »

not that many, enough to know i aint playing any more poker tonight Cool just having fun reading the posts i have missed! Cool
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« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2005, 03:04:08 AM »



On the left The Rookie  - on the right Dingdell - i introduce to you the blonde heads up team for the bahamas leg of the world drinking tour - led by eminent expert drinker Brian Wilson.......

(is this the right time to mention that with one drink I'm funny, with two I'm comatosed?  I am very concerned I may not be able to keep up)
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« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2005, 03:04:25 AM »

I'm obviously behind at the moment, butthe first thing i'd do is try and imagine what my opponents put me on. I raised pre-flop and bet solidly on the flop, with a good number of opponents behind me. That would make me appear to have: AJ, QQ, KK, AA or possibly AKc

Now bearing this in mind I got 2 callers, the first getting at least 2-1 on his money and the the second at least 3-1. So my guestimates are:

Opponent 1 may be:
- 20% drawing to the flush (not that much chance at that money and with potential reraisers behind him)
- 40% slowplaying trips (possible, but less so because of the flushing board, and with other players still potentialy involved).
- 40% has top pair with a dodgy kicker J-Q or J-K. A terrible call, but you see it all the time. He knows you might bet the flop, but can't bring himself to reraise because of your possible hands.

Opponent 2 may be:
- 10% slowplaying trips (enough money in the pot to reraise now, especially with the dangerous board).
- 75% drawing to the flush (very feasible. reraise unlikely to knock both opponents out, especially with the hand your, and very good value due to the first caller)
- 15% has top pair with a dodgy kicker. Less likely than opponent 1 - two players have called before him. he's not in good shape and would know it.

ok given this and the ace dropping, I'm actually tempted to bet at it. The top pair and even the flush draw (even if its Ace-rag) can still be ejected here, and although i'm worried about the trips, i think there's a good chance that opponent 1 would have raised to get rid of someone with the flush draw on the flop.

Given all this off-ze-cuff analysis, I say bet strong Wink




I however, would have checked and hoped for a free card like the big wuss that I am...


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« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2005, 07:09:04 PM »

Some intersting response. A real mixed bag. This is what happened next.


***** Hand History for Game 3221496264 *****

$200 NL Texas Hold'em

Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9

Seat 1: Rumi_Mowlana ( $369.10 )
Seat 3: dembums2005 ( $155.25 )
Seat 7: snoopy1239 ( $252.15 )
Seat 8: juicebol ( $242.30 )
Seat 9: deathtax ( $197.70 )
Seat 10: tiltno ( $190.05 )
Seat 4: Zoe_69 ( $369 )
Seat 2: nayrktz ( $65.80 )
Seat 6: drunkpunk_ ( $200 )

Zoe_69 posts small blind [$1].
drunkpunk_ posts big blind [$2].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to snoopy1239 [  ]

snoopy1239 raises [$5].
juicebol folds.
deathtax folds.
tiltno calls [$5].
Rumi_Mowlana calls [$5].
nayrktz folds.
dembums2005 calls [$5].
Zoe_69 folds.
drunkpunk_ folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ , , three clubs ]

snoopy1239 bets [$15].
tiltno calls [$15].
Rumi_Mowlana calls [$15].
dembums2005 folds.

** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]

snoopy1239 bets [$40].
tiltno raises [$80].
Rumi_Mowlana calls [$80].


Okay, what now? Fold, call, raise? If I raise, do I just move all-in?
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« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2005, 06:35:59 PM »

Ouch

A raise all in would be the ballsy move, setting up a nice squeeze play on the middle player who can only surely call with a v good Ace fearing what's behind him, but boy, hairy

How about call, and then check fold if you miss?

I've clearly got no balls!
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« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2005, 06:39:17 PM »

Ouch

A raise all in would be the ballsy move, setting up a nice squeeze play on the middle player who can only surely call with a v good Ace fearing what's behind him, but boy, hairy

How about call, and then check fold if you miss?

I've clearly got no balls!

Nah, I think you're right.

If they've got this far, and they're prepared to reraise my third consecutive bet, then I doubt reraising all-in will force them to fold.

I reckon call, check, fold is the best option.

It's way too cheap too fold, especially with the straight draw to boot.
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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2005, 12:29:01 AM »

Flush draw is no good, put it down.
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« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2005, 12:31:53 AM »

Flush draw is no good, put it down.

Do I not have pot odds to call to hit one of my straight cards?
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« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2005, 12:34:58 AM »

Shoulda thrown the hand away ages ago, talk about
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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2005, 01:13:48 AM »

Flush draw is no good, put it down.

Do I not have pot odds to call to hit one of my straight cards?

You have 6 outs, so work it out!

The problem also lies in the reverse implied odds, if you make the flush and someone bets 50 are you going to fold?
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« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2005, 01:19:17 AM »

I'll have around $150 left. If I hit a straight and move in, one of them is bound to call. On this basis, I have pot odds. Otherwise, no.
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