Blatter opens door to techonology debate

[Bongo]

Lol at the debate about the Germans going down the other end and scoring.

Obv Lampards goal counts and the German counter attack doesn't. As after Lampards goal the Germans would have to kick off from the centre circle not the keepers hands.
 

So what if the German counter leads to a foul of some description which was a sending off offence?

Would that sending off then be quashed because they shouldn't have been there in the first place?

If the sending off is related to the actual game then the sending off doesn't count, in effect everything that happens after the ball crosses the line is deemed to never have happened. Of course if Ashley cole decks Klose with a left hook then he would be sent off as that is an off the ball incident.

What if someone gets their leg broken after the ball crosses the line?

[Longy]

Lol at the debate about the Germans going down the other end and scoring.

Obv Lampards goal counts and the German counter attack doesn't. As after Lampards goal the Germans would have to kick off from the centre circle not the keepers hands.
 

So what if the German counter leads to a foul of some description which was a sending off offence?

Would that sending off then be quashed because they shouldn't have been there in the first place?

If the sending off is related to the actual game then the sending off doesn't count, in effect everything that happens after the ball crosses the line is deemed to never have happened. Of course if Ashley cole decks Klose with a left hook then he would be sent off as that is an off the ball incident.

What if someone gets their leg broken after the ball crosses the line?

The physio comes on the field and calls for a stretcher. They then go to hospital, have an x-ray, get put in plaster and the case is passed over to that players clubs medical staff.

[mondatoo]

Lol at the debate about the Germans going down the other end and scoring.

Obv Lampards goal counts and the German counter attack doesn't. As after Lampards goal the Germans would have to kick off from the centre circle not the keepers hands.
 

So what if the German counter leads to a foul of some description which was a sending off offence?

Would that sending off then be quashed because they shouldn't have been there in the first place?

If the sending off is related to the actual game then the sending off doesn't count, in effect everything that happens after the ball crosses the line is deemed to never have happened. Of course if Ashley cole decks Klose with a left hook then he would be sent off as that is an off the ball incident.

What if someone gets their leg broken after the ball crosses the line?

They run bad

[EvilPie]

Lol at the debate about the Germans going down the other end and scoring.

Obv Lampards goal counts and the German counter attack doesn't. As after Lampards goal the Germans would have to kick off from the centre circle not the keepers hands.
 

So what if the German counter leads to a foul of some description which was a sending off offence?

Would that sending off then be quashed because they shouldn't have been there in the first place?

But if the technology is done right then the goal decision should be instant. There'd be no German counter unless it wasn't a goal.

So you're thinking 4th or 5th official with a radio link to the ref with the power to over rule and insta stop play if a mistake has been made?

[StuartHopkin]

Chip in the ball would mean they know in a split second so the whole argument is bizarre.

What happens if the ball goes in, the goal isnt awarded before a plane crashes into the pitch?

[Bongo]

Lol at the debate about the Germans going down the other end and scoring.

Obv Lampards goal counts and the German counter attack doesn't. As after Lampards goal the Germans would have to kick off from the centre circle not the keepers hands.
 

So what if the German counter leads to a foul of some description which was a sending off offence?

Would that sending off then be quashed because they shouldn't have been there in the first place?

If the sending off is related to the actual game then the sending off doesn't count, in effect everything that happens after the ball crosses the line is deemed to never have happened. Of course if Ashley cole decks Klose with a left hook then he would be sent off as that is an off the ball incident.

What if someone gets their leg broken after the ball crosses the line?

The physio comes on the field and calls for a stretcher. They then go to hospital, have an x-ray, get put in plaster and the case is passed over to that players clubs medical staff.

Do you wait for them to get better before carrying on?

Serious point though, if red cards don't count you could have dirty teams exploiting that (if they know it's a goal).

[Longy]

Lol at the debate about the Germans going down the other end and scoring.

Obv Lampards goal counts and the German counter attack doesn't. As after Lampards goal the Germans would have to kick off from the centre circle not the keepers hands.
 

So what if the German counter leads to a foul of some description which was a sending off offence?

Would that sending off then be quashed because they shouldn't have been there in the first place?

If the sending off is related to the actual game then the sending off doesn't count, in effect everything that happens after the ball crosses the line is deemed to never have happened. Of course if Ashley cole decks Klose with a left hook then he would be sent off as that is an off the ball incident.

What if someone gets their leg broken after the ball crosses the line?

The physio comes on the field and calls for a stretcher. They then go to hospital, have an x-ray, get put in plaster and the case is passed over to that players clubs medical staff.

Do you wait for them to get better before carrying on?

Serious point though, if red cards don't count you could have dirty teams exploiting that (if they know it's a goal).

As Stu says with a chip in the ball, this decision should be instant. On Sunday by the time the ball is in the keepers hands, the goal would have been given.

[EvilPie]

Lol at the debate about the Germans going down the other end and scoring.

Obv Lampards goal counts and the German counter attack doesn't. As after Lampards goal the Germans would have to kick off from the centre circle not the keepers hands.
 

So what if the German counter leads to a foul of some description which was a sending off offence?

Would that sending off then be quashed because they shouldn't have been there in the first place?

If the sending off is related to the actual game then the sending off doesn't count, in effect everything that happens after the ball crosses the line is deemed to never have happened. Of course if Ashley cole decks Klose with a left hook then he would be sent off as that is an off the ball incident.

What if someone gets their leg broken after the ball crosses the line?

The physio comes on the field and calls for a stretcher. They then go to hospital, have an x-ray, get put in plaster and the case is passed over to that players clubs medical staff.

Do you wait for them to get better before carrying on?

Serious point though, if red cards don't count you could have dirty teams exploiting that (if they know it's a goal).

If they know it's a goal they wouldn't need to exploit it.

[gatso]

What happens to the time that has been played out before a review is made?

Couple of scenarios, team 'scores' in the last minute of a match, game is played out until final whistle and replay checked. Would you award the goal after the end of the match or add another few minutes on?

What if there was a freak passage of play (several minutes+) without a stoppage?

as in other sports using this sort of technology the timekeeping wouldn't be done by the ref anymore. clock would be reset by the timekeeper who'd probs be the replay official as well

shame we didn't have technology when you reffed that game

[DMorgan]

obv you stop the game dead if something needs to be reviewed. Not doing so just opens the door to more mistakes being made if it turns out that the original decision was incorrect.

To those that claim that stopping the game for a video review would ruin the pace or the flow of the game, what about when someone rolls around on the floor for 2 minutes then gets up and manages to perfectly place their penalty when they're magically ok again?

If its a video review decision as to whether its a goal or not, nobody would care that you had to wait a minute or two to find out because its more tension and suspense for both sets of fans.

Also to those that are saying that it would have to be extended to everything like corners and yellow cards, it just doesn't. Whether or not the ball goes in the net is clearly the biggest game-changing mistake that can be made so surely that should be the mistake that we make the most effort to eliminate?

[Murph1984]

Also to those that are saying that it would have to be extended to everything like corners and yellow cards, it just doesn't. Whether or not the ball goes in the net is clearly the biggest game-changing mistake that can be made so surely that should be the mistake that we make the most effort to eliminate?

If they introduce technology for goal-line decisions it is inevitable it will be implemented for other things down the line.Now that may happen 5/10 years later but they have to be aware that it will happen.

I suspect they are more than aware of this,which is why they're reluctant to open the floodgates as it were in the first place.

[Longines]

I'm not so sure about that Murph. 'Did it cross the line?' is a question with a definitive answer that the goal line technology companies say they can answer in half a second, so all the 'but when do you stop the game?' arguments are bollocks.

'Was that a foul?' can never be answered definitively, it's down to someone's opinion.

I can see GLT coming in and being the natural limit of technology in football.

But I think Tighty is right.

[Alverton]

Good thread, good arguments on all sides. 

I do like people scoffing at my what ifs?  But they all have to be answered so theres consistency.  All situations have to be looked at, even the most obscure ones.

Hope not to offend, but i LOL at people saying its so easy to implement more technology.


IMHO 6 officials are the way to go.  Big decisions missed by the 4 officials this world cup:  Lampards shot, goalside ref easily sees it.  Teves offside goal, gs ref confirms it.  Trezeguets handball against Ireland, and Ireland are on the flight home from South Africa.

[Girgy85]

Good thread, good arguments on all sides. 

I do like people scoffing at my what ifs?  But they all have to be answered so theres consistency.  All situations have to be looked at, even the most obscure ones.

Hope not to offend, but i LOL at people saying its so easy to implement more technology.


IMHO 6 officials are the way to go.  Big decisions missed by the 4 officials this world cup:  Lampards shot, goalside ref easily sees it.  Teves offside goal, gs ref confirms it.  Henry's handball against Ireland, and Ireland are on the flight home from South Africa.

FYP

[kinboshi]

Lol at the debate about the Germans going down the other end and scoring.

Obv Lampards goal counts and the German counter attack doesn't. As after Lampards goal the Germans would have to kick off from the centre circle not the keepers hands.
 

So what if the German counter leads to a foul of some description which was a sending off offence?

Would that sending off then be quashed because they shouldn't have been there in the first place?

If the sending off is related to the actual game then the sending off doesn't count, in effect everything that happens after the ball crosses the line is deemed to never have happened. Of course if Ashley cole decks Klose with a left hook then he would be sent off as that is an off the ball incident.

What if someone gets their leg broken after the ball crosses the line?

They run bad

Needs a lot more love.