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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2010, 09:45:50 PM »

as its edna aa is a distinct pos here...if she is first in then likely ..limping bhind range is much wider..however 14 bb deep shes getting my money on that flop
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« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2010, 09:52:42 PM »

the analysis is simple enough. I can lead, c/c or c/r with the intention of getting it in at whatever stage

At the table, and then privately afterwards two people said "it had to be Aces". I really don't think it was that simple.
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« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2010, 09:57:07 PM »

the analysis is simple enough. I can lead, c/c or c/r with the intention of getting it in at whatever stage

At the table, and then privately afterwards two people said "it had to be Aces". I really don't think it was that simple.

So it was aces then. If there ever was a truism in poker that everyone plays perfectly in hindsight and knows exactly what people had.

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« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2010, 09:59:23 PM »

Even though i know it was Aces, i still don't think she has Aces.

What you think Middymonster?
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« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2010, 10:00:11 PM »

Sigh, Middytubby has gone.
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« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2010, 10:03:30 PM »

the analysis is simple enough. I can lead, c/c or c/r with the intention of getting it in at whatever stage

At the table, and then privately afterwards two people said "it had to be Aces". I really don't think it was that simple.

So it was aces then. If there ever was a truism in poker that everyone plays perfectly in hindsight and knows exactly what people had.




True enough, and I find such comments rattle me more than they should "I should have known that too" etc etc
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« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2010, 10:20:46 PM »

the analysis is simple enough. I can lead, c/c or c/r with the intention of getting it in at whatever stage

At the table, and then privately afterwards two people said "it had to be Aces". I really don't think it was that simple.

In this specific instande I would lead as you will get called by worse pairs and less chance money will go in if she has a small pair
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« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2010, 10:54:12 PM »

the analysis is simple enough. I can lead, c/c or c/r with the intention of getting it in at whatever stage

At the table, and then privately afterwards two people said "it had to be Aces". I really don't think it was that simple.

If people at the table are saying it's always Aces, and she's an experienced and knowledgeable player, i'd figure her range is half the deck.
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« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2010, 11:18:29 PM »

the analysis is simple enough. I can lead, c/c or c/r with the intention of getting it in at whatever stage

At the table, and then privately afterwards two people said "it had to be Aces". I really don't think it was that simple.

So it was aces then. If there ever was a truism in poker that everyone plays perfectly in hindsight and knows exactly what people had.




True enough, and I find such comments rattle me more than they should "I should have known that too" etc etc

You did know it at the time they said it to you.
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« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2010, 11:31:35 PM »

Think we have to fold pre in an unraised pot if we don't plan to get it all in here - whoever the villain is

folding a free flop from the BB is something only my dad would do

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« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2010, 09:33:25 AM »

the analysis is simple enough. I can lead, c/c or c/r with the intention of getting it in at whatever stage

At the table, and then privately afterwards two people said "it had to be Aces". I really don't think it was that simple.

So it was aces then. If there ever was a truism in poker that everyone plays perfectly in hindsight and knows exactly what people had.




True enough, and I find such comments rattle me more than they should "I should have known that too" etc etc

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« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2010, 12:18:13 PM »

Never in doubt Edna has aces here. Hope you realised and didn't ship it in. That would have been poor play.
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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2010, 02:18:02 PM »

Never in doubt Edna has aces here. Hope you realised and didn't ship it in. That would have been poor play.

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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2010, 02:31:33 PM »


Think we have to fold pre in an unraised pot if we don't plan to get it all in here - whoever the villain is

folding a free flop from the BB is something only my dad would do



I thought about doing this in a tournament last week because:
a. I thought I'd get a couple of limpers on my BB
b. I had loads of chips
c. I thought it'd be funny

but they spoiled my fun by giving me a walk Sad
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« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2010, 03:04:51 PM »

I don't know the player but live players are usually massive nits so I'm not really too thrilled about getting it in here. Your standard live nit isn't betting a T or a flush draw here so we're only beating QJ and J9, but it doesn't really seem to make any sense for her to limp those hands given that there just hasn't been any limping going on.

I guess I could just be results oriented through reading the whole thread but when I first looked at it, really did seem like aces.

The line of 'lol we have top pair with 14BBs we're all in' is a bit short sighted imo. Yes against a wide (or even tight-ish) limping range we can get this in and be happy about it but we're talking about a very tight limping range here that for all we know could be AA only given that this is the players first open limp in 90 minutes. The fact that she reaches for chips too....tight live players just don't bluff in this spot so I don't think its nearly as clear cut as a lot of people are saying.
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