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« on: July 13, 2010, 12:39:28 PM »

2 tables are left, 5 are paid

280,000 in play

average is 18,000

blinds are 300-600/50

UTG limper 19,000. Complete loose cannon (USA Dennis to those who know Luton). Impossible to put on a range here beyond the top 75% of hands

Hero 16,000 completes in the sb with  . I know this is a leak in general, but the aim is to hit a flop four-square and get paid by the calling station limper

Big Blind 40,000 checks option. (Xpressman) Solid, playing confidently. Stabbing at lots of pots in the last 30 minutes both pre and post.


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Could be better, could be worse

I check, I am happy with a free card. I might make a move on one opponent if action

Big blind leads for 1200. UTG calls quickly

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Is there a case to check-raise here against two opponents? The read is the big blind will fold a lot of his leading range, the UTG though may call very light

Call and play the hand out of position..check folding the turn to action?

Fold now?


What is your preferred option?

 

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 12:46:41 PM »

Never folding this at this point given the action.

At first I wanted to raise, but thinking about it I prefer the flat and have a look at the turnski.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010, 01:08:23 PM »

Couldn't be better, not much worse you mean!

Tighty if you are completing with these hands this is heaven! - am raising to commit here and have no problem getting it in.

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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010, 01:11:50 PM »

Couldn't be better, not much worse you mean!

Tighty if you are completing with these hands this is heaven! - am raising to commit here and have no problem getting it in.



This.

Looking at the turn is no good as any card that completes your straight also kills your action.

Get them in.

Oh and pre flop making up with 6-4 is not a leak IMO...with K 5 it would be.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2010, 01:16:25 PM »

Completing with 64o is just about ok I think.

I'd be tempted to lead the flop. You may well get raised if they think you're just taking a stab and you can then push over that raise.

As played though I think I flat call. We might struggle for action if we hit our straight, but we're just about getting immediate pot odds to draw to it.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2010, 01:22:17 PM »

Agree with Guy 100%. Short of 666 this flop is absolute heaven.

Ship the lot in now or make it a committing raise to about 7k with the intention of jamming any turn.

There's no point whatsoever in calling to see what develops. Any card that improves your hand completely kills your action even against a station.

Just ship now and either take the pot down or win what is likely 50 50 minimum.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2010, 01:24:59 PM »

i think completing is a leak with your stack size here.

I'd probably just check raise/jam the flop as played to save hard decisions OOP 3way on further streets
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 01:34:01 PM »

Calling with 64o isn't a massive leak if you know how to make the most of it when you hit.

If you call and then manage to get nothing more out of it when you hit this flop then it's bad and you should stick to folding in future.

As luck would have it your oppos have gifted you a few nice easy chips so just take 'em now.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2010, 01:36:12 PM »

Actually I've changed my mind. I like a shove more. I think it has a good chance of getting through and we add ~5k to our ~14k stack. If we get called then we have a pair and oesd innit.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2010, 01:37:04 PM »

Completing with 64o is just about ok I think.

I'd be tempted to lead the flop. You may well get raised if they think you're just taking a stab and you can then push over that raise.

As played though I think I flat call. We might struggle for action if we hit our straight, but we're just about getting immediate pot odds to draw to it.

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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2010, 01:39:03 PM »

Completing with 64o is just about ok I think.

I'd be tempted to lead the flop. You may well get raised if they think you're just taking a stab and you can then push over that raise.

As played though I think I flat call. We might struggle for action if we hit our straight, but we're just about getting immediate pot odds to draw to it.

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what do you hope for when flatting here against 2 oppos? That you'll hit your straight and then get no action? That an overcard comes and you can sigh fold?

I reckon a flat is worse than folding here IMO.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2010, 01:41:42 PM »

I think completing is fine with this hand and after doing so and hitting the flop dont mind leading with intention of shipping to a r/r or c/r as the action has played out with a committing raise
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 01:44:56 PM »

Calling with 64o isn't a massive leak if you know how to make the most of it when you hit.

If you call and then manage to get nothing more out of it when you hit this flop then it's bad and you should stick to folding in future.


As luck would have it your oppos have gifted you a few nice easy chips so just take 'em now.


Saves me posting the same.

You're very rarely going to be hitting the flop any harder than that - so what were you planning on doing on such a flop when you called pre?

I also don't see the point of flatting now, surely you want to be shoving here to take the pot or get a caller when you know you're very unlikely to be a huge dog.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 01:45:32 PM »

Completing with 64o is just about ok I think.

I'd be tempted to lead the flop. You may well get raised if they think you're just taking a stab and you can then push over that raise.

As played though I think I flat call. We might struggle for action if we hit our straight, but we're just about getting immediate pot odds to draw to it.

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what do you hope for when flatting here against 2 oppos? That you'll hit your straight and then get no action? That an overcard comes and you can sigh fold?

I reckon a flat is worse than folding here IMO.

I much prefer leading the flop and shoving over a raise.  As played I don't think we're going to be able to raise enough to get rid of both players, but folding just feels too weak when we've hit the flop so massively.
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 01:52:23 PM »

LOL you bunch of live fish.

completing 64o here is a leak.
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