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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2010, 07:44:42 PM »

your preflop range is purely pairs, villain knows this and doesnt expect you to fold

I don't agree with this. Villain perceives we're only flatting with pairs? Villain doesn't expect us to fold? We have taken a stab at a pot in position, not exactly showing our intent to go with the hand with this bet.

It's not a great spot, I might be able to lay down tens, but I feel like Jacks are too strong. He could have 88/TT and broadway hearts, and he might play AA more coyly on this safe board?...

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2010, 10:09:27 PM »

your preflop range is purely pairs, villain knows this and doesnt expect you to fold

I don't agree with this. Villain perceives we're only flatting with pairs? Villain doesn't expect us to fold? We have taken a stab at a pot in position, not exactly showing our intent to go with the hand with this bet.

It's not a great spot, I might be able to lay down tens, but I feel like Jacks are too strong. He could have 88/TT and broadway hearts, and he might play AA more coyly on this safe board?...

nh gg wp Smiley

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2010, 10:36:43 PM »

In hindsight if you shoved pre-flop villain would snap fold his K-9. You don't really want that to happen. It means you give him easy decisions to make & he can play perfectly against you. If a 9-high flop rolled down and you stacked villain I reckon your hindsight thoughts would be different. Only the sort of miracle flop that came down makes this hand easy for villain, and that's not happening very often. I don't think flatting pre is cautious. In fact it's prob the more aggressive play. It's gives you much more chance to stack villain if he's holding worse.
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2010, 07:59:43 AM »

In a live poker arena i think your line is really good. Its low v plus soooooper sneaky, OP, did you consider checking the flop back?
so sigh he has a nine though Sad
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2010, 10:09:11 AM »

Thanks for the follow up replies guys. I actually pretty much agree with your  comments Mantis. I do think i was prob being results orientated in my earlier post, when looking at the three  pre-flop options that i had to choose from. I showed the hand to an online poker pal who's starting to give me some poker mentoring and he pointed out the problem with the re-raise all in option.
 I didn't really give the option of checking back the flop much consideration to be honest SuuPRlim. I thought that hands like AJ+ were a distinct possibility for villian and, with the flushing board too, i didn't blike the idea of giving a free card. Cheers ALL Smiley
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