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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2010, 03:41:57 PM »

you are probably going to get a lot of results orientated replies which is why it's usually best to not include results in the op!

but honestly, sam is aggressive and creative. i'd not be looking to fold TT to him preflop. i think you have too many bigs to make shoving pre optimal but vs a button 3bet of his it will certainly still be profitable.

calling the 3bet is fine by me, but like you said, you will have to call down on scary boards quite a bit, and a lot of players will not be comfortable doing this. there is also the possibility that you actually end up folding the best hand to him postflop.

therefore, i like 4bet/calling pre best, since it takes back control of the pot and puts the pressure back on him. there is also the added bonus of him spazzing out pre with any number of hands which your holding will play quite well against.

sucks you got coolered but don't think you could overplay your hand just 50bb deep here

what about caling the 3bet and donking a low board? or is he too spazzo to let go if he doesn connect? cuz that again could create some nasty post flop spots. I dont mind hero-ing him on 2 streets but im not deep enuf to get away from it after turn imo.

as for 4bet pre: would u 4bet small for shove induce with broadways and smaller pairs? or bigger for to give him less fold equity and take it down pre?

but yea my thinking was too that 10's is pretty much crushing his 3betting range here.

don't hate sometimes betting into him on flops, but note i'm not betting into him to then fold my hand...i'd just be trying to induce a shove.

and 4bet pre to 26k or something seems fine
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2010, 06:09:52 PM »

JT i'd raise fold if I raised but TT against sam would be a 4bet call it off. As is I hate the idea of calling to lead/fold good boards for us. us that the dawg said basically!
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2010, 11:06:27 PM »

Raise less pre imo
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 11:39:45 PM »

you are probably going to get a lot of results orientated replies which is why it's usually best to not include results in the op!

but honestly, sam is aggressive and creative. i'd not be looking to fold TT to him preflop. i think you have too many bigs to make shoving pre optimal but vs a button 3bet of his it will certainly still be profitable.

calling the 3bet is fine by me, but like you said, you will have to call down on scary boards quite a bit, and a lot of players will not be comfortable doing this. there is also the possibility that you actually end up folding the best hand to him postflop.

therefore, i like 4bet/calling pre best, since it takes back control of the pot and puts the pressure back on him. there is also the added bonus of him spazzing out pre with any number of hands which your holding will play quite well against.

sucks you got coolered but don't think you could overplay your hand just 50bb deep here

what about caling the 3bet and donking a low board? or is he too spazzo to let go if he doesn connect? cuz that again could create some nasty post flop spots. I dont mind hero-ing him on 2 streets but im not deep enuf to get away from it after turn imo.

as for 4bet pre: would u 4bet small for shove induce with broadways and smaller pairs? or bigger for to give him less fold equity and take it down pre?

but yea my thinking was too that 10's is pretty much crushing his 3betting range here.

don't hate sometimes betting into him on flops, but note i'm not betting into him to then fold my hand...i'd just be trying to induce a shove.

and 4bet pre to 26k or something seems fine

this seems really good advice v said villain
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2010, 12:24:47 AM »

fold  pre imo
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2010, 04:12:01 PM »

pretty tough spot i guess. on the info you have provided and your estimate at villians 3 bet % i guess it would be 4 bet call>>>>>>>3 bet jam>>>>>flat>>>>>>fold>>>>>>4 bet fold

one thing i defo wouldnt be doing is flatting, donking flop, then folding to a shove. reaalllyyy spewwyyy

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