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« on: July 19, 2010, 02:39:56 AM »

This hand is from the UKIPT £1k Main Event in Brighton. The hand occurs in level 1 of day 1, around about 15 mins in, so no reads on table.

Blinds are 25/50. Everyone is pretty much playing their starting stack of 15000. MP raises to 150, hijack calls. I'm in the cut off with 33, and decide to call as well. Button also calls.

Flop is A83 rainbow. MP checks, hijack decides to bet (something in the region of 300-400), I call with my set, and button also comes along for the ride.

Turn is an 8, the board now showing 2 hearts. Hijack checks, so I decide to bet 800. Button calls, and hijack folds. Anyone check here?

River comes 9 of hearts, completing the flush. I decide to bet 2100. Button thinks for a moment, and then raises to around 6500. I puke. What would you do in this spot?

It's difficult to say what I put the button on, on the turn, to be honest. I was discounting an 8 to be honest, since I doubt he would overcall the flop with 8x? He obviously could have A8 though. I would say that's the only likely 8x holding. He could have backdoored a flush, and be raising for value on the river, thinking I have an 8? Like I said, there's no reads on villain at the moment, he's just a young guy with his hood on. One key bit of information is that I'm not 100% if the Ace on board was a heart or not. I was told later it wasn't, but again, it's not 100%. 

So, critique the play guys! Will post results and other info after some replies.
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2010, 02:46:39 AM »

If it's not the you have to call.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2010, 04:03:45 AM »

im confused
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 04:16:47 AM »

If it's not the you have to call.

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This makes a fair bit of difference to the hand.

Dunno that I could fold here, even though it does look like a puke spot.

We're getting like 3:2 on a call, does he have 89s/A8s/quad eights 60%+ of the time? Too likely he could have a flush for me, he might have pealed with x8hh suited connectors or Axhh assuming that's possible.

Sigh that A8s makes a lot of sense though.

Never checking the turn btw...
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2010, 08:35:05 AM »

Sunny this isn't a puke spot- he may raise worse but it being level 1 I would just call. If he had A8 or a bigger boat it's just a cooler and you should deffo bet turn to build a pot. You played it fine. I may check the river once the heart hits but only to get it in which might be a mistake this early
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 08:56:30 AM »

 Why would the button raise the river on that board? I would say 98, A8 or 88 are very likely holdings for villian. It's a tough one to fold, and i would almost certainly not be able to do it, but i think that the correct move is FOLD.
 ps-I flopped quad eights in a live game last week, which was nice Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010, 09:50:39 AM »

My thought process,

[ x ] Spose I could be behind.

[   ] Folding
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 10:28:58 AM »

I want to bet more on the turn. You've bet half-pot, I think. Looks too milky to me, want to bet more against two oppos to build a bigger pot
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 10:32:14 AM »

15 mins into the tournament it's impossible to know what villain can be holding. I mean it looks like A-8 or 8-9 to me and that's what I'd expect villain to show when I snapped the river. Then again I wouldn't be all that surprised to see a naked 8, AK, flush, spaz bluff...this early who knows how villain values his hands? I'm betting the turn for value as well. Folding a full house vs 1 unknown in the early donk stage of a live tournament isn't a consideration. Just take the cooler like a man and move on.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2010, 10:33:47 AM »

My thought process,

[ x ] Spose I could be behind.

[   ] Folding

Very much this.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2010, 10:41:09 AM »

Not folding here

I know this wont be the conensus due to  "losing value" but I check/call these spots early in tournies, for 2 reasons, first and obv, you might be beat, but also some people like to go big or go home in the early levels and will happily bluff this river, and therefore i prefer to bluff catch than get myself into a spot.

i like your line. Im never checking the turn, and prob call as played.
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2010, 10:57:15 AM »

Bet more on turn, can't fold here
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2010, 01:20:45 PM »

My thought process,

[ x ] Spose I could be behind.

[   ] Folding

Very much this.

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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2010, 03:53:27 PM »

call and say "i shudve went broke this hand if u didnt try trappy trappy on the flop"
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2010, 03:55:54 PM »

My thought process,

[ x ] Spose I could be behind.

[   ] Folding

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