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« on: July 29, 2010, 01:57:51 PM »

Hey, know there must be a few players on here.

I've recently taken up golf and i'm pretty awful tbh; had a few lessons and got a few pointers but have the worst slice in the world!

So anyway can anybody recommend and good intructional videos; either through DVD or online to try and get better!

My mate suggested an anti-slice driver but not really interested in that....wanna learn to do it right rather than compensate for it.

The thing is my Irons are fine; and if anything have a slight draw which is ok so its mainly driving I need to learn
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 02:04:23 PM »

I don't play golf and never have but I can remember a similar thread from a while back.

Basically get more lessons is the answer if I remember correctly.

Good luck.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 02:14:16 PM »

Practice imo
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 02:21:12 PM »

lessons > instructional vid

only real way you'll improve is lessons.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 02:26:32 PM »

Hey, know there must be a few players on here.

I've recently taken up golf and i'm pretty awful tbh; had a few lessons and got a few pointers but have the worst slice in the world!

So anyway can anybody recommend and good intructional videos; either through DVD or online to try and get better!

My mate suggested an anti-slice driver but not really interested in that....wanna learn to do it right rather than compensate for it.

The thing is my Irons are fine; and if anything have a slight draw which is ok so its mainly driving I need to learn




You slice it because the club goes outside the correct line when you go back, when you are then on your downswing you are coming across the ball slightly from the outisde (right if your right handed).

Things to combat a slice are, taking the club back correctly, rolling your hands over more on impact or addressing the ball with a stance intended to force a draw shot (ie left foot a few inches further forward than your right so that your feet align you slightly to the right of the target. Putting your feet like that forces you to take the club back more around you (inside) and less outside the line, do this enough so that you dont fade but don't go so far that you draw it lots.

Getting a lesson down a range with a video camera so the person can show you how it looks and what exactly is wrong where is probably a good idea. thumbs up
GL.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 03:39:21 PM »

Hey, know there must be a few players on here.

I've recently taken up golf and i'm pretty awful tbh; had a few lessons and got a few pointers but have the worst slice in the world!

So anyway can anybody recommend and good intructional videos; either through DVD or online to try and get better!

My mate suggested an anti-slice driver but not really interested in that....wanna learn to do it right rather than compensate for it.

The thing is my Irons are fine; and if anything have a slight draw which is ok so its mainly driving I need to learn




You slice it because the club goes outside the correct line when you go back, when you are then on your downswing you are coming across the ball slightly from the outisde (right if your right handed).

Things to combat a slice are, taking the club back correctly, rolling your hands over more on impact or addressing the ball with a stance intended to force a draw shot (ie left foot a few inches further forward than your right so that your feet align you slightly to the right of the target. Putting your feet like that forces you to take the club back more around you (inside) and less outside the line, do this enough so that you dont fade but don't go so far that you draw it lots.

Getting a lesson down a range with a video camera so the person can show you how it looks and what exactly is wrong where is probably a good idea. thumbs up
GL.


I find all this inside the line , outside the line, rolling hands , break wrists talk very complicated,

PUT BALL IN HOLE , simple as that methinks......
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 04:33:06 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 04:47:54 PM »

a slice occurs because the club face is pointing right at impact, the most common cause of that is the club pointing right at address, the fact that you slice a driver but hit irons straightish would suggest to me that you are aiming right and "coming over the top" on the downswing pulling the ball to the left with the short irons and producing a slice with the longer clubs. I would work on your allignment put a club down on the ground parralel to where you want to hit it, your feet, hips and shoulders should be alligned with the club on the ground, i wouldnt try and take the club "inside" as titanium suggests as this can be overdone and will promote the over the top swing. if you take the club straight back and allow your shoulders to turn while keeping your head fairly steady you should get into a decent position at the top of the backswing.

just remember to practice your chipping and putting just as much as your driving it as it will have a greater impact on your scores than anything else.
I cant reccomend any dvd's but ben hogans book the modern fundamentals of golf is a book that every teaching proffesional i have ever met owns and refers too.
best of luck

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 05:12:09 PM »

Leave your driver in the garage and use your 4 iron off the tee, once your swing improves then move upto your 3 wood and so on.
200 yd straight is alot better than 220-230 yds in the rough.
Plus you confidence will improve as your scores start to drop.

Good Luck and there's nothing like practice to get better.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 05:40:59 PM »

a slice occurs because the club face is pointing right at impact, the most common cause of that is the club pointing right at address, the fact that you slice a driver but hit irons straightish would suggest to me that you are aiming right and "coming over the top" on the downswing pulling the ball to the left with the short irons and producing a slice with the longer clubs. I would work on your allignment put a club down on the ground parralel to where you want to hit it, your feet, hips and shoulders should be alligned with the club on the ground, i wouldnt try and take the club "inside" as titanium suggests as this can be overdone and will promote the over the top swing. if you take the club straight back and allow your shoulders to turn while keeping your head fairly steady you should get into a decent position at the top of the backswing.

just remember to practice your chipping and putting just as much as your driving it as it will have a greater impact on your scores than anything else.
I cant reccomend any dvd's but ben hogans book the modern fundamentals of golf is a book that every teaching proffesional i have ever met owns and refers too.
best of luck

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Having also had issues with going from irons to woods. I found that it was mainly because of the different weight of the clubs/distance and the amount of 'roll from the wrists'. I wouldn't turn my wrists enough through the ball with the heavier/longer clubs and hence used to push it out to the right. The same stance with an iron would result in a straight and good shot (yeah go me).

I've found that excercises with two irons in my hand pre round working on the feel of my wrists rotating has really helped the driver feel less heavy, less hard to bring through correctly. Similarly shortening your grip on it has a similar effect.

The reason I suggested a movement in the feet area as opposed to different address was because a) easier to describe over a forum b) it helps you feel how you should take it back and overdoing it just teaches you more about your swing, you can always shift between the two and c) imo with the woods etc its better to have a very slight draw than a fade.


It's often really helpful to go down to a range or practice room which has the fake grass mats, but one where there are lots of different coloured lines on it to show you what a 'straight back swing is' compared to a 'fade outside to inside' or 'draw inside to outside'.



Couple of tips for stance etc.

obviously using clubs to align your feet, practice hip/feet shoulder alignment as they should all be aiming in the same place.

try placing a tee peg about 8 inches behind the ball, make sure that on your backswing you skim the tee (move it so that it's in a comfortable position depending on your height etc) but it helps you focus on bringing the club back in the correct way, similarly you come back down and go over it on the downswing. On the follow through best tip I can give is to just stop the club at the end of your swing and stare at the tea/spot you've just hit from and count to 3. That will help you keep still and not bring your head up etc.


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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2010, 07:24:36 PM »

lessons are the best by a mile. went from 20 to 11, thought i was the bollocks so stopped lessons, i'm off 18 ish again now.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2010, 07:30:32 PM »

I learn from lots of playing. Some require lessons others by watching videos. I guess you will have to find whats best for you.

My tip is try and improve via practice and your own analysis first as it keeps the golf swing and thinking natural and uncomplicated.



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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2010, 07:43:44 PM »

Videos and books will help to give you a good understanding of what is required for a good golf swing.  Once you have this knowledge, you need to have lessons from a good teaching pro.  Having knowledge on the golf swing will help you with lessons.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2010, 08:43:48 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2010, 08:51:07 PM »

Hey, know there must be a few players on here.

I've recently taken up golf and i'm pretty awful tbh; had a few lessons and got a few pointers but have the worst slice in the world!

So anyway can anybody recommend and good intructional videos; either through DVD or online to try and get better!

My mate suggested an anti-slice driver but not really interested in that....wanna learn to do it right rather than compensate for it.

The thing is my Irons are fine; and if anything have a slight draw which is ok so its mainly driving I need to learn

So many players struggle because the basics are not right,making sure you have the correct grip is vital to improve your game

If you get the basics right the rest will soon follow,then its just prcatice,practice,and practice im afraid

Good luck!
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