Anyone folding here....

[mondatoo]

joszunabot18 is a good reg

PokerStars Game #47517788257: Tournament #296877655, $11+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2010/07/31 10:08:06 ET
Table '296877655 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: AEFALIROU (942 in chips)
Seat 5: joszunabot18 (47667 in chips)
Seat 8: mondonewc (18891 in chips)
AEFALIROU: posts the ante 50
joszunabot18: posts the ante 50
mondonewc: posts the ante 50
joszunabot18: posts small blind 400
mondonewc: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mondonewc [ ]
AEFALIROU: folds
joszunabot18: raises 46817 to 47617 and is all-in

Payouts 154,110,77

[NoflopsHomer]

I think this is a fold tbh. Even if you win you don't guarantee getting 1st.

Longy, do some calculations.

[mondatoo]

I think this is a fold tbh. Even if you win you don't guarantee getting 1st.

Longy, do some calculations.

Done calcs will post results when a few have replied

[DMorgan]

Folding pretty quick

[doubleup]

payouts are a bit flatter than in a stt so prob v close

[Longy]

I am passing. Range for calling something like jj+ at a guess.

[DMorgan]

Just ran it through SNGEGT and its a fold, calling with JJ+ assuming that the reg is shoving any 2 as he should be

[doubleup]

just noticed that the short stack is in our sb, so it will be hard for the big stack to keep him alive - if the big stack was in this position and say had already given the short stack a walk, would it make any difference to anyone?

[EvilPie]

F**k folding!!

Call and TID.

I can understand that the math says fold but I don't play enough sngs to give a shit about locking up the extra $33

Would be different if it was an mtt and there was more than 3bi involved. Billy big stack could exploit the hell out of me then but here I just call.

For the sng grinders I can see why a fold would be the preferred choice. Out of interest if you drop big stack by 2k and stick it on shorty's stack is this still a fold?

[Sack it off]

Yeah I'm folding, and I don't really follow ICM but this is clear cut fold

[Ironside]

insta snap

[DMorgan]

For the sng grinders I can see why a fold would be the preferred choice. Out of interest if you drop big stack by 2k and stick it on shorty's stack is this still a fold?

The shorty has to have 10k to make AKs a call. We can call with TT if you stick the extra 2k on.

[mondatoo]

Different responses to what I expected wpwp.It's a fold ICM wise if he's shoving 100% of his range your calling range is QQ+.I called he had J10 results don't matter but James insta thought it was a call but after a while thought maybe it's a fold I dwelled called but thought ICM this is maybe a fold.

I disagree with the shorty needing to have 10k for this to be a right call I'd be suprised if your correct here ?

[DMorgan]

I'm just quoting the numbers from SNGEGT (free ICM calc)

I was pretty suprised at that myself. I'd double check it but stars comes up with an annoying message to close the program 'cos its prohibited software

[pleno1]

if guy has 9k im neverrrrrrrrr folding, im like fml fold as it is.