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[ViiperUK]

That's one of the most bizarre things I think I have ever seen. WTF just doesn't begin to cover it!!!!

that's why you have to keep repeating it.


wtf

wtf

[geordieneil]

      how the fk can the police release her after the motorway incident, fk me she jumps in front of 3 vehicles and they think she's sane??   i mean some guys dead because of more red tape police stupidity.

    for the 50th time in this thread

    WTF

[ViiperUK]

      how the fk can the police release her after the motorway incident, fk me she jumps in front of 3 vehicles and they think she's sane??   i mean some guys dead because of more red tape police stupidity.

    for the 50th time in this thread

    WTF

This is exactly what got me as much

and i'll add another in

WTF

[mondatoo]

      how the fk can the police release her after the motorway incident, fk me she jumps in front of 3 vehicles and they think she's sane??   i mean some guys dead because of more red tape police stupidity.

    for the 50th time in this thread

    WTF

This is one of the many insane things in this what got me as much

and i'll add another in

WTF

[TightPaulFolds]

     how the fk can the police release her after the motorway incident, fk me she jumps in front of 3 vehicles and they think she's sane??   i mean some guys dead because of more red tape police stupidity.

    for the 50th time in this thread

    WTF

Both tried to throw themselves repeatedly into traffic. Clearly sane. WP coppers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00tf1r4/b00tf1qs/Madness_in_the_Fast_Lane/

18:00 minutes in. "Have you ever tried to harm yourself? Clearly this wasn't a good idea was it? Motorway incident...let's put that aside" lolwtf

"She just appeared to be a bit odd. But being a bit odd isn't a crime."  This should have gone to IPCC wtf

[Royal Flush]

Are you really that silly?

Do you think it's the policeman's job to make an assessment on her mental state or do you think maybe they have someone else to do that?

[TightPaulFolds]

Are you really that silly?

Do you think it's the policeman's job to make an assessment on her mental state or do you think maybe they have someone else to do that?

Let me fill you in cos you seem to have lost your way a bit. The police have the responsibility to perform an initial assessment on her mental state. If you watch your local bobbies out and about and even down the nick you'll see that even though they deal with lots of people doing crazy things, they don't have a mental health services professional standing beside them all the time to perform insta-diagnoses. It is therefore the job of the cops to perform an assessment (based on their perceived mental state)  of whether a health professional needs to be called in or not. They perform an initial screening. You notice in the video that the cop asks her if she is a risk to herself or others. This is part of his assessment. They also know that she tried several times to throw herself into traffic. This fact should have been part of the assessment that would have led the police to call in a professional to perform the diagnosis. It appears to have been ignored and therefore it looks like no one was called in. You get it now?

[TightPaulFolds]

Section 136, Mental Health Act

Mentally Disordered Persons found in Public Places
The Mental Health Act states:
"136 - (1) If a constable finds, in a place to which the public have access, a person
who appears to him to be suffering from mental disorder and to be in immediate
need of care or control, the constable may, if he thinks it necessary to do so in the
interests of that person or for the protection of other persons, remove that person to
a place of safety within the meaning of Section 135....…
136 - (2) A person removed to a place of safety under this section may be detained
there for a period not exceeding 72 hours for the purpose of enabling him to be
examined by a Registered Medical Practitioner and to be interviewed by an
Approved Social Worker and of making necessary arrangement for his treatment or
care".

[vegaslover]

I only saw about 5 mins of this while at work the other night, but wasn't he asking these at the station?

[TightPaulFolds]

I only saw about 5 mins of this while at work the other night, but wasn't he asking these at the station?

Looked like it yes, why?

[geordieneil]

i think throwing yourself under speeding traffic once is enough to be sectioned.....3 times, they should of thrown away the key to the padded cell.

   some pour chap is dead, and the police have to take responsibility for this, allowing this woman free was absolutely ridiculous

[sofa----king]

the strangest thing ive ever.,.,ever seen in my life.,.,.












i woulda sh463d the two of them..,.,.,.,.then they really woulda been mental.,.,.,

[vegaslover]

I only saw about 5 mins of this while at work the other night, but wasn't he asking these at the station?

Looked like it yes, why?

Can't use 136 at the Police station. From here on in it is up to the duty Psych to assess.
FWIW you can't detain somebody for being odd. If they show capacity you certainly can't detain, then up to Police to decide if their actions determined being held.
And padded cells haven't been used for years.

[TightPaulFolds]

I only saw about 5 mins of this while at work the other night, but wasn't he asking these at the station?

Looked like it yes, why?

Can't use 136 at the Police station.

136 IS used at Police Stations.
Mental Health Act:

136 - (2) A person removed to a place of safety under this section may be detained
there for a period not exceeding 72 hours for the purpose of enabling him to be
examined by a Registered Medical Practitioner and to be interviewed by an
Approved Social Worker and of making necessary arrangement for his treatment or
care".

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She had already been removed from a public place by the poice and was now at the police station (and could have been put in a police cell) deemed a 'place of safety under the Act. All they need to do is fill in the Section 136 paperwork at the station. At that stage, with her at the station, and under 136.2 they proceed to have her examined by the health professionals, but it looks like they just didn't bother.

FWIW you can't detain somebody for being odd. If they show capacity you certainly can't detain, then up to Police to decide if their actions determined being held.
And padded cells haven't been used for years.

The constable can and should detain someone "who appears to him to be suffering from mental disorder and to be in immediate need of care or control". She had just deliberately jumped out in front of a car. This fits the detention criteria pretty well.
You can't detain somebody just for being odd, correct. The fact that this statement was made by PC Plod in the video would suggest that 'just odd' was his final appraisal on her state of mind.
Yeah some people are just a bit odd, jumping out in front of cars, trying to kill themselves, stuff like that.   Best just send her on her way with a cup of tea and a copy of 'Frogger'.

[Woodsey]

You guys have way too much time on your hands arguing over this BS............

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