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[mondatoo]

He has a bar named after him under the ground,he's thought as probably our best ever player and he's an absolute God to every Geordie.Why would he want to change that for medals and to be just another one of the 20-30 legends at Man U.It seems like a simple choice to me ??

Because Monda surely professionals play football to win? The best want to achieve something. They want something to look back on? Who gives a shit if you have a bar named after you at the ground? He was held in such high esteem that Hughton got the job ahead of him in the championship even tho he made it quite clear he wanted the job

Fans don't pick the manager,he didn't get the job because he demanded money to buy better players whereas hughton is a yes man.Yes he wanted to win but I would rather give my all for my home town and hope to compete(bar 2 cup finals yes I know we didn't) then play for someone else and win every trophy every year,if medals mattered that much to him he wudn't have retired so early from England would he ?

[The Baron]

Point I'm trying to make is that maybe, at the time, given the choice he would have picked his home town club over any other. The pull is obviously huge.

However when he looks back on his career of nothingness, maybe just maybe he should have dug his heels in and said he would only sign for United.

Fair enough if that is what happened, but googling brings up a lot of articles suggesting both that BRFC rejected Utds bid and that Shearer rejected Utd. Obv Utd wouldn't want to say they lost out to NUFC (you always say they weren't interested when they lose out on a transfer) and Shearer would never admit wanting to go to Utd.

But the fact that every Utd fan I know have taken it that "he made the wrong choice", and the fact that all of the articles about Walker rejecting Utds bid seem to be written by fans (as opposed to direct statements by Keegan at the time and Shearer in his Biography) leads me to think it's more likely that he did probably choose where he wanted to go.

Interesting to hear the second side of ther story anyway.


Do you think Bryan Robson looks back and wishes he signed for Liverpool? I don't think anyone who is a fan of their club could think that. It would be like me wishing I was brought up a Utd fan.

[The Baron]

People always over-estimate how much of a loss he was to United.

I mean he was an incredible striker but didn't United win something like 8/12 titles when he was at his playing peak anyway,not like they went trophyless without him.

True but it would have been more in Europe - that I am sure of.

[gatso]

People always over-estimate how much of a loss he was to United.

I mean he was an incredible striker but didn't United win something like 8/12 titles when he was at his playing peak anyway,not like they went trophyless without him.

who are you talking about?

[George2Loose]

Point I'm trying to make is that maybe, at the time, given the choice he would have picked his home town club over any other. The pull is obviously huge.

However when he looks back on his career of nothingness, maybe just maybe he should have dug his heels in and said he would only sign for United.

Fair enough if that is what happened, but googling brings up a lot of articles suggesting both that BRFC rejected Utds bid and that Shearer rejected Utd. Obv Utd wouldn't want to say they lost out to NUFC (you always say they weren't interested when they lose out on a transfer) and Shearer would never admit wanting to go to Utd.

But the fact that every Utd fan I know have taken it that "he made the wrong choice", and the fact that all of the articles about Walker rejecting Utds bid seem to be written by fans (as opposed to direct statements by Keegan at the time and Shearer in his Biography) leads me to think it's more likely that he did probably choose where he wanted to go.

Interesting to hear the second side of ther story anyway.


Do you think Bryan Robson looks back and wishes he signed for Liverpool? I don't think anyone who is a fan of their club could think that. It would be like me wishing I was brought up a Utd fan.

Depends. Did Robson ever have the choice?

[Murph1984]

People always over-estimate how much of a loss he was to United.

I mean he was an incredible striker but didn't United win something like 8/12 titles when he was at his playing peak anyway,not like they went trophyless without him.

who are you talking about?

Shearer

[The Baron]

Point I'm trying to make is that maybe, at the time, given the choice he would have picked his home town club over any other. The pull is obviously huge.

However when he looks back on his career of nothingness, maybe just maybe he should have dug his heels in and said he would only sign for United.

Fair enough if that is what happened, but googling brings up a lot of articles suggesting both that BRFC rejected Utds bid and that Shearer rejected Utd. Obv Utd wouldn't want to say they lost out to NUFC (you always say they weren't interested when they lose out on a transfer) and Shearer would never admit wanting to go to Utd.

But the fact that every Utd fan I know have taken it that "he made the wrong choice", and the fact that all of the articles about Walker rejecting Utds bid seem to be written by fans (as opposed to direct statements by Keegan at the time and Shearer in his Biography) leads me to think it's more likely that he did probably choose where he wanted to go.

Interesting to hear the second side of ther story anyway.


Do you think Bryan Robson looks back and wishes he signed for Liverpool? I don't think anyone who is a fan of their club could think that. It would be like me wishing I was brought up a Utd fan.

Depends. Did Robson ever have the choice?

Hypothetically speaking.

[gatso]

People always over-estimate how much of a loss he was to United.

I mean he was an incredible striker but didn't United win something like 8/12 titles when he was at his playing peak anyway,not like they went trophyless without him.

who are you talking about?

Shearer

ah ok, I misread it as you meaning someone who'd left united that they missed

yeah they were still hugely dominant without him but they would've won the lot with him

[Josedinho]

Shearer still won the title. I know it's only once but he had the medal. He knew he was good enough to win the league but would rather have tried to do it with his home club than move just because he'd win more medals.
Didn't Gerrard says "it's alright winning medals but when you go home who are you going to show them to?"

[George2Loose]

Shearer still won the title. I know it's only once but he had the medal. He knew he was good enough to win the league but would rather have tried to do it with his home club than move just because he'd win more medals.
Didn't Gerrard says "it's alright winning medals but when you go home who are you going to show them to?"

Same Gerrard who almost left Liverpool twice?

[Josedinho]

Shearer still won the title. I know it's only once but he had the medal. He knew he was good enough to win the league but would rather have tried to do it with his home club than move just because he'd win more medals.
Didn't Gerrard says "it's alright winning medals but when you go home who are you going to show them to?"

Same Gerrard who almost left Liverpool twice?

That's the one. Offered more money and more medals and didn't go.

[The Baron]

Do you think Bryan Robson looks back and wishes he signed for Liverpool? I don't think anyone who is a fan of their club could think that. It would be like me wishing I was brought up a Utd fan.

I think it's pretty obv Robson would never really have that thought - not sure why it'd be different for Shearer. Both seem to be fellas of their word.

[George2Loose]

Shearer still won the title. I know it's only once but he had the medal. He knew he was good enough to win the league but would rather have tried to do it with his home club than move just because he'd win more medals.
Didn't Gerrard says "it's alright winning medals but when you go home who are you going to show them to?"

Same Gerrard who almost left Liverpool twice?

That's the one. Offered more money and more medals and didn't go.

So it's abso nothing to do with the fact that Liverpool had chances to win things? He stayed because they were competitive not just because he loves the club.

If he didn't believe he could win things with Liverpool he would be pulling the Blue jersey on as we speak

[The Baron]

Shearer still won the title. I know it's only once but he had the medal. He knew he was good enough to win the league but would rather have tried to do it with his home club than move just because he'd win more medals.
Didn't Gerrard says "it's alright winning medals but when you go home who are you going to show them to?"

Same Gerrard who almost left Liverpool twice?

That's the one. Offered more money and more medals and didn't go.

So it's abso nothing to do with the fact that Liverpool had chances to win things? He stayed because they were competitive not just because he loves the club.

If he didn't believe he could win things with Liverpool he would be pulling the Blue jersey on as we speak

After last season we may not win anything else in his career. Surely this summer was the perfect time to go then?

[mondatoo]

Tbf I think it would be hard for any Man U fan to understand where other supporters are coming from here so will have to agree to disagree.