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« on: August 26, 2010, 05:48:50 PM »

Just had a ridiculously horrible spot but interested what everyone else thinks???


Game # 1834531361 - Omaha High Pot Limit EUR 2/4 - Table "Ramallo"

Players(max 2):
the811split                 (EUR 726.25 in seat 1)
E@SYCALL4M                  (EUR 646.50 in seat 2)

Dealer:                     E@SYCALL4M
Big Blind:                  the811split (4.00)
Small Blind:                E@SYCALL4M  (2.00)

the811split was dealt:      - - -

E@SYCALL4M                  Raise       (12.00)
the811split                 Call        (8.00)

Flop                        - - three diamonds

the811split                 Check       
E@SYCALL4M                  Bet         (24.00)
the811split                 Raise       (96.00)
E@SYCALL4M                  Call        (72.00)

Turn                        - - three diamonds -

the811split                 Bet         (125.00)
E@SYCALL4M                  Call        (125.00)

River                        - - three diamonds - -

the811split                 Check       
E@SYCALL4M                  All-In      (413.50)


Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 05:54:45 PM »

I think that his 8 9 10 J type hand may have just missed all of its outs and as you have given up on the end thinks he can buy it. It really looks like a missed straight draw of some descrption. Unless he has got there with kkxx or qqxx type hands which I doubt.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 11:35:03 PM »

I'd have bet a bit bigger on the turn, 170ish.

This is really gross 'cos I think its exactly what he'd do with KQ. Do you think he makes it to the turn with many KKxx or QQxx combos apart from those with 9T or 96?

I really don't think that he can have a big wrap thats missed because wouldn't most of them would be happy to 3bet and get it in on a rainbow board considering that you don't have to have a set/2pr to c/r this board?

I think the most likely scenario is that he flopped top pair with a KQ8x hand and got stubborn against the c/r, turned K8 and just called still a little bit wary of a set, made top 2 on the river, you slow down so he just jams hoping that you have a hand exactly like you do and you pay it off
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 03:18:41 PM »

I'd have bet a bit bigger on the turn, 170ish.

This is really gross 'cos I think its exactly what he'd do with KQ. Do you think he makes it to the turn with many KKxx or QQxx combos apart from those with 9T or 96?

I really don't think that he can have a big wrap thats missed because wouldn't most of them would be happy to 3bet and get it in on a rainbow board considering that you don't have to have a set/2pr to c/r this board?

I think the most likely scenario is that he flopped top pair with a KQ8x hand and got stubborn against the c/r, turned K8 and just called still a little bit wary of a set, made top 2 on the river, you slow down so he just jams hoping that you have a hand exactly like you do and you pay it off

yeah I thought exactly this, flop C/R is pretty bad this deep imo. once again though its so hard to fold when they rep such thin value range, but seems like a really retarded spot to bluff fpr this exact reason
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 03:29:40 PM »

Pretty sure against a random, snapping his dick off is a +EV play here.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 03:30:12 PM »

in fact, looking at it again, i prob beat him into the pot.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 03:47:12 PM »

in fact, looking at it again, i prob beat him into the pot.

Im so tiled by this hand its actually unreal i havent really played since
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 05:59:34 PM »

in fact, looking at it again, i prob beat him into the pot.

Would be interested to know your reasoning behind this?
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 10:51:33 PM »

in fact, looking at it again, i prob beat him into the pot.

Would be interested to know your reasoning behind this?

Ok, I folded at the time, and since I clicked the fold button I cant think of why i folded, Im pretty sure its a call because I think he checks back MOST of his better 2p hands, its a missed straight draw every day imo (he'd just lost a bgish pot to me and was a bit tilty)

He showed 6TJA fwiw idk if im being a bit results orientated but i never fold so shocked i did here.
Also the flop c/r is bad this deep aswel imo
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 11:31:29 PM »

wow, snap sit thsi guy for life?
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 11:50:43 PM »

3bet or fold pre

As played call flop
As played check turn
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2010, 12:16:26 AM »

3bet or fold pre

As played call flop
As played check turn


yes. 100%. Im terrrrrrrible Sad
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