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« Reply #1710 on: May 31, 2012, 10:59:10 AM »

Yeah I'm pretty sure he is. He's definitely not being staked by them to play $1500's that's for sure, so wearing the patches for these "bowl" events wouldn't make so much sense and he is good friends with alot of them and natural progression is for them to join "his" team. Last year they were wearing PokerFarm patches, Bord was behind the PokerFarm operation that was in Costa Rica, South Africa and the UK. John Hewitt from the Costa Rica house was the WSOP bubble boy last year and is part of Matchbook team now.

The PokerFarm is basically dead now though after the famous hacking incident around 8 months ago.

Yeah I don't know the guy, but I don't think he is on his own there and people I've spoken to seem to suggest it's more than one investor. My impression was the main money man was Matthew Benham, but I could be way off and it's Bord's show with Benham just investing some cash.

They certainly have a lot of cash to spend, whoever is the money man. And sponsoring pokerplayers to try and attract players to bet on your betting exchange is just odd. I presume they see the poker thing as pure +EV on its own though much as the investment scenario you suggested earlier.

Agreed. That's what I meant by this.
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« Reply #1711 on: May 31, 2012, 11:04:11 AM »

In fact, why don't you subcontract your idea through Bord? Offer him a group of players you will manage for a fee?
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« Reply #1712 on: May 31, 2012, 11:13:31 AM »

A really well known and competent player approached me yesterday asking if I wanted a slice of his Vegas action. It was going to cost $500 for 1% of action, I'd generally not take over $500 worth of action in any player unless it was very good value (ala titty and stu rutter) for me to "double" my money the player would need to win $100k in Vegas over about 7 tournaments, 4 of which were $2500's or lower. For me to win a nice amount of money, lets say $5k he would need to wiun $500k.

Staking first became interesting to me when I was buying shares for £10-£50 with the chance of making 3-4k if the player won the tournament, this fortunately happened with Back to Back Monte Carlos with Alex Goulder and Raymondooooooooo. Since then I've slowly been increasing the stakes and slowly increasing the tournaments, from buying 10% in somebody in DTD's £300, I am now buying pieces of people in 10k triple stud hi lo, multiple %'s in the main event and lots of other ridiculously huge Vegas packages. Staking is the "in" thing to do and don't get me wrong I understand that they are +ev investments that will make me money over the long run, but I think that after Vegas I'm just going to really cut down on the buying pieces game. Having such a huge outlay, is quite stressful. Anyway here are the horses for the summer. I basically need them to win around 200k between them.

Stu Rutter

David Nicholson

Dan Morgan

Andrew Wayman

Katie X from 2p2

Stato

Scotty77

Marky147

Two 2+2 guys

and then potentially

Alex Goulder

Chaz Chatta

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« Reply #1713 on: May 31, 2012, 12:44:11 PM »

A really well known and competent player approached me yesterday asking if I wanted a slice of his Vegas action. It was going to cost $500 for 1% of action, I'd generally not take over $500 worth of action in any player unless it was very good value (ala titty and stu rutter) for me to "double" my money the player would need to win $100k in Vegas over about 7 tournaments, 4 of which were $2500's or lower. For me to win a nice amount of money, lets say $5k he would need to wiun $500k.

Staking first became interesting to me when I was buying shares for £10-£50 with the chance of making 3-4k if the player won the tournament, this fortunately happened with Back to Back Monte Carlos with Alex Goulder and Raymondooooooooo. Since then I've slowly been increasing the stakes and slowly increasing the tournaments, from buying 10% in somebody in DTD's £300, I am now buying pieces of people in 10k triple stud hi lo, multiple %'s in the main event and lots of other ridiculously huge Vegas packages. Staking is the "in" thing to do and don't get me wrong I understand that they are +ev investments that will make me money over the long run, but I think that after Vegas I'm just going to really cut down on the buying pieces game. Having such a huge outlay, is quite stressful. Anyway here are the horses for the summer. I basically need them to win around 200k between them.

Stu Rutter

David Nicholson

Dan Morgan

Andrew Wayman

Katie X from 2p2

Stato

Scotty77

Marky147

Two 2+2 guys

and then potentially

Alex Goulder

Chaz Chatta



I'll try and get you 75 of that 200 anyway Smiley
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« Reply #1714 on: May 31, 2012, 02:19:05 PM »

If you were going to stake around 10 guys into the WSOP/Venetians etc for one whole summer including some 10k's etc what would be the overall outlay and what would be a respectable bankroll for doing it?

I was thinking about approaching businessmen, like reallllly big businessmen/companies and proposing it. If it is proposed correctly it is shown that the deals are definitely +ev for the backer and I would take a small cut out of it.

I'm pretty sure for 2013 I could assemble an AMAZING team, sorting out the accomodation/morale/making sure people were playing properly and not spunking off etc.

Maybe a really stupid thought..

Hi patrick my friend got staked by some Russian guy last year in a couple of the wsop 1/1.5k events ,the guy was bitching n moaning quite a bit as in his words 400k$ s worth of horses and all he had yet had back was ten bob n a pickled onion ,I don't know how he picked these random players ? My mate sent his full tilt stats by e mail n just met him there ,the guy met him gave him the dough and left him to it
So that's the kind of money involved ,I don't know wether this is a lot ? Or not ? It sounds plenty to me
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« Reply #1715 on: May 31, 2012, 02:25:45 PM »

Hey,

This was MaxKatz, he used to buy most packages on 2+2, iirc he had ALOT of winners last year and it was profitable. I think his team was called "The Poker Fund" hilariously he is now a politician in Russia Cheesy

I think if I could propose a really well detailed and thouhgt out plan about BRITISH players, that I know and could vouch for their trust and skills whilst being able to help them both strategically and mentally it could be a very profitable deal for the investor.

I would be able to show winrates/variance/schedules/structures/plans alottt better than JJ did in the Den that's for sure.

If I did the proposal it wouldn't be flinging everybody into every WSOP event and people wouldn't be bracelet hunting in 2-7 TD, I'd have players playing every day in the Venetian trying to win the POY award that is worth alot and takes volume + skill, and then another team working in the Rio and taking lots of days off between tournaments and playing the good value tournaments + satalites on a daily basis.

It's all unrealistic and 99.999% won't happen, but would love to give it a go Smiley
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« Reply #1716 on: May 31, 2012, 02:28:01 PM »

The BITB in The Den wud be incred, gogogogogo
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« Reply #1717 on: May 31, 2012, 03:52:45 PM »

The BITB in The Den wud be incred, gogogogogo

this!

Also, with all this staking discussion, I didn't realise you were offering me up as a 'decent investment'.. not sure how much pressure I can handle!? Tongue

Would be incred to have a MaxKatz vegas stable... glglgl.
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« Reply #1718 on: June 01, 2012, 09:47:35 AM »

Huge month!

I'm currently going to KFC/McD/Pizza Hut basically every day. Need to get grind on and sort things out Cheesy


Goals..

[ ] 20,000 cash game hands
[ ] 750 HU SNG's
[ ] Shot take 1knl
[ ] Watch 5 HU SNG videos
[ ] Create one video for PS.com
[ ] Win 10k from WSOP staking Tongue

[ ] No KFC/McDonalds/Pizza Hut
[ ] No sweets
[ ] No cake
[ ] No fizzy drinks
[ ] 6 football games
[ ] 3 runs

  • lets go

Hopefulyl will
  • each one off.
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« Reply #1719 on: June 01, 2012, 11:34:13 PM »

So going to blog alot this month, really want to hit all of my goals and show myself that I can do things if I put my mind to it rather than just going for the easier or more appealing options.

Theres some amazing promotions on Unibet this month and really want to take advantage of them, for the last 4 months or so I've been playing on Microgaming, playing only 4 tables but playing stupidly out of line. Almost all of the regs give me zero credit so I decided to exploit them by increasing my number of tables and exploiting my laggy image.

So today I dropped right down the stakes back to 200 and 400nl and got my grind on. Lots of nice spots and good plays and started month with a boom. Hit my rake target for the day and to get the max rakeback for the month I have to hit this volume target 25 times. Its great weather and Euro2012 is here so its going to be hard.

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I always always go out for dinner with my mate Callum, I faded the peer pressure and managed to be good and have some fruit instead, I always have 3 lollypops a day lol but managed to fade them too. Ingrid cooked me a chicken dinner at home and all in all has been a good day and I'm sticking to all of the goals.

Its going to be really hard, especially as Vegas and the WSOP becomes more appealing by the day, I realise its early but grinding out a solid month here will be as big and more rewarding than any previous months grind.
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« Reply #1720 on: June 01, 2012, 11:41:21 PM »

Hand of the day..


Prima Network $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1784164
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $933.10 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 13.0, Hands: 103
BTN: $292.00 - VPIP: 63, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 0.6, Hands: 79
SB: $435.00 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 18, 3B: 12, AF: 0.0, Hands: 99
BB: $962.40 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 22.0, Hands: 81
Hero (UTG): $919.00 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 24, 3B: 11, AF: 2.5, Hands: 32834
MP: $364.00 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 22, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 101

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG with   
Hero calls $4, 1 fold, CO raises to $16, BTN calls $16, 1 fold, BB calls $12, Hero raises to $66, CO calls $50, BTN calls $50, BB calls $50

Flop: ($266.00)  two spades    (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $226.00, BB calls $226, Hero raises to $853, CO folds, BB folds

Turn: ($944.00)  (2 players)

River: ($944.00) Q (2 players)

Final Pot: $944.00
BTN shows    two hearts
Hero shows   
Hero wins $314.00
Hero wins $627.00
(Rake: $3.00)
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« Reply #1721 on: June 02, 2012, 05:20:35 PM »

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« Reply #1722 on: June 02, 2012, 10:00:51 PM »

Hand of the day..


Prima Network $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1784164
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $933.10 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 13.0, Hands: 103
BTN: $292.00 - VPIP: 63, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 0.6, Hands: 79
SB: $435.00 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 18, 3B: 12, AF: 0.0, Hands: 99
BB: $962.40 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 22.0, Hands: 81
Hero (UTG): $919.00 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 24, 3B: 11, AF: 2.5, Hands: 32834
MP: $364.00 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 22, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 101

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG with   
Hero calls $4, 1 fold, CO raises to $16, BTN calls $16, 1 fold, BB calls $12, Hero raises to $66, CO calls $50, BTN calls $50, BB calls $50

Flop: ($266.00)  two spades    (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $226.00, BB calls $226, Hero raises to $853, CO folds, BB folds

Turn: ($944.00)  (2 players)

River: ($944.00) Q (2 players)

Final Pot: $944.00
BTN shows    two hearts
Hero shows   
Hero wins $314.00
Hero wins $627.00
(Rake: $3.00)


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« Reply #1723 on: June 02, 2012, 11:13:03 PM »

Cheesy:D
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« Reply #1724 on: June 03, 2012, 02:13:31 AM »

Please post regular updates tomorrow, nothing more fun than a sunday rail. I'm at a place with actual internet for the next few days, so will try to get in touch for a quick chat, just update you on #SOTF plans and staking discussions if your free, il send a pm too
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