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« Reply #1920 on: August 04, 2012, 01:01:39 PM »

Well I can't fold obv.

And


I played 35/27/16


Can't all be AA :p

so you don't think it's terrible?


It's simple math.

It's €60 to call into a pot of €130...

We need less than 35% to make it a "breakeven" call

Equity Win Tie 
MP2  38.16%  35.07%  3.08% 54o
MP3  61.84%  58.76%  3.08% random

How can it ever be terrible?

Edit: This doesn't take in to account future image and if you think you're a really good player then future exploitation of your image and understanding game flow is huge, so even if it was a borderline bad call (it definitely isn't) then it can be easily justified.

re edit: it says 110 in stack and 90 post, its def 90, it's raises to not raises Cheesy but hem2 gonna hem2

I don't understand. Are you really justifying this? I thought when you first posted you were like "yeh was joke tilted, just gambolling". But now you say that it's a good play to 3bet/call 54o for 25bbs or 28bbs whatever it is? You're really tilting me!
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« Reply #1921 on: August 04, 2012, 01:06:27 PM »

You realise he cold 4bet all in and I didn't 3bet him yeh?

Ive shown itt that it's obviously a no brainer call what don't you understand/tilts you? It's quit obvious that I need around 32% equity and vs any two cards (he shoved 53) Im way ahead of the needed equity to call.


Obviously don't need to justify a light. 3bet vs reg in cut off.

What can you not understand?
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« Reply #1922 on: August 04, 2012, 01:10:25 PM »

You realise he cold 4bet all in and I didn't 3bet him yeh?

Ive shown itt that it's obviously a no brainer call what don't you understand/tilts you? It's quit obvious that I need around 32% equity and vs any two cards (he shoved 53) Im way ahead of the needed equity to call.


Obviously don't need to justify a light. 3bet vs reg in cut off.

What can you not understand?

No I didn't realise that Cheesy

Still, must be bad to 3bet that hand with a stack in the blinds that you have to call it off vs, especially when he shoves 53, means he's shoving any two. Why would you chose 54o to 3bet anyway?

It's so funny reading your hands that are just joke ool and then John is just trying to do the same things and you have to beat him down over and over again Cheesy
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« Reply #1923 on: August 04, 2012, 01:11:42 PM »

Pretty large BB pot my friend just lost.

http://weaktight.com/4894598

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« Reply #1924 on: August 04, 2012, 01:16:41 PM »

You realise he cold 4bet all in and I didn't 3bet him yeh?

Ive shown itt that it's obviously a no brainer call what don't you understand/tilts you? It's quit obvious that I need around 32% equity and vs any two cards (he shoved 53) Im way ahead of the needed equity to call.


Obviously don't need to justify a light. 3bet vs reg in cut off.

What can you not understand?

No I didn't realise that Cheesy

Still, must be bad to 3bet that hand with a stack in the blinds that you have to call it off vs, especially when he shoves 53, means he's shoving any two. Why would you chose 54o to 3bet anyway?

It's so funny reading your hands that are just joke ool and then John is just trying to do the same things and you have to beat him down over and over again Cheesy

3bet initially is perhaps a mistake with this SB, but was just printing vs cut off who folds 72% over 5k sample so I literally just 3bet him 100% in these spots and he doesn't/hasn't adjusted yet.

One big difference, I'm winning at 10bb/100 at mid stakes over last 100k hands and he was losing at a similar rate at nl25.

I give constructive criticism to John that he needs to take on board, whilst I have a very aggresiive game at mid stakes.

Being a good mid stakes player at NL25 wouldn't work, if I played as ool at nl25, I would have the same win rate as John. It's just about doing the ABC's right.

For example I would never advocate 7bet bluffing at NL25, whilst I posted a couple hands from yesterday where it was definitely correct.

Also main thing with aggression is understanding game flow and if its a right spot to do it or not. John simply hasn't played enough hands to understand game flow yet and he realises this, once he has played 300k+ hands he will start realising when spots are reallllly bad spots and understanding board textures etc.

For example I make some really nitty folds, the best players actually probably make more hero folds than hero calls and next video I'm making for PokerStrategy is about hero folds rather than stationing but just posting hands where I fold top pair or ace high which is a hero fold would be kinda wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

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« Reply #1925 on: August 04, 2012, 01:21:51 PM »

I did a hero fold the other day and got laughed at. I wonder what you think.

Playing a comp on .FR where everybody is so faceup it's unreal. Their betsizes are so obvious whether they've got it or not / whether they are nutted or just strong etc

6handed, guy raises utg, earlyish blind levels, maybe first level of antes. I flat AJss on the button. both blinds call.

JT7r checks to him he bets the full pot. I folded. Think AJ is the bottom of his range here. Think he ended up getting it in vs the bb on the turn and he had TT.
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« Reply #1926 on: August 04, 2012, 01:25:04 PM »

folding probably going to be fine, even if you're ahead atm almost every run out sucks and you have no implied odds.
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« Reply #1927 on: August 04, 2012, 01:28:42 PM »

i didnt realise it wasnt him you 3b.
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« Reply #1928 on: August 04, 2012, 05:26:16 PM »

I did a hero fold the other day and got laughed at. I wonder what you think.

Playing a comp on .FR where everybody is so faceup it's unreal. Their betsizes are so obvious whether they've got it or not / whether they are nutted or just strong etc

6handed, guy raises utg, earlyish blind levels, maybe first level of antes. I flat AJss on the button. both blinds call.

JT7r checks to him he bets the full pot. I folded. Think AJ is the bottom of his range here. Think he ended up getting it in vs the bb on the turn and he had TT.


wat


lol



wat



wat



wat




you haven't played much on .fr Alex.


bottom of range?

they don't have ranges



yes they are extremely bad and against alot of them you can make the most bizarrely exploitable plays but assuming a cbet is TPTK+ is just wrong.


THEY ARE FRENCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also lol at the last line of results orientation!


Also pleno I was lolling alot thinking wtf till I noticed you 3b btn vs co with the shorty in sb obv calling the cold 4 especially if he's tilted and especially if you've been 3betting alot and crushing.


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« Reply #1929 on: August 04, 2012, 05:34:17 PM »

he potted the flop, wasnt a normal cbet otherwise i wouldn't have folded. it's these slight differences that make them so easy to play against. you see "top pair top kicker frenchie bet". I see "frenchie raised utg and potted JT7 mulitway". I fold correctly, you call incorrectly. Happy with my play and results on .fr and other euro sites.
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« Reply #1930 on: August 04, 2012, 05:40:35 PM »

know that post will tilt you titty. so here's some love
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« Reply #1931 on: August 04, 2012, 05:44:21 PM »

he potted the flop, wasnt a normal cbet otherwise i wouldn't have folded. it's these slight differences that make them so easy to play against. you see "top pair top kicker frenchie bet". I see "frenchie raised utg and potted JT7 mulitway". I fold correctly, you call incorrectly. Happy with my play and results on .fr and other euro sites.

lol ok

You wouldn't fold J2 to the cbet tho rite? cos we got dem blockers?
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« Reply #1932 on: August 04, 2012, 05:45:19 PM »

he potted the flop, wasnt a normal cbet otherwise i wouldn't have folded. it's these slight differences that make them so easy to play against. you see "top pair top kicker frenchie bet". I see "frenchie raised utg and potted JT7 mulitway". I fold correctly, you call incorrectly. Happy with my play and results on .fr and other euro sites.

lol ok

You wouldn't fold J2 to the cbet tho rite? cos we got dem blockers?

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« Reply #1933 on: August 04, 2012, 05:48:47 PM »

Lolz
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« Reply #1934 on: August 04, 2012, 05:53:39 PM »

I meant blockers to twos yeh. xx
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