Genting to repay £70,000 to WPT London players & dealers!

[tikay]

also they said a 25k seat for the WPT World Championship was as well as first and they just took it out of the first place money with no option given pretty bs imo.
(ps not meant to be a brag thought it was relevant)

This is scandalous - if they won't let you swap it for cash they've stolen 25k from you.

Is that legal?

I remember there being some reason why DTD couldn't do this for WSOP sats?

No, the DTD/WSOP thing was completely different, & unrelated.

Harrahs own the WSOP brand, & their Policy is that no Cardroom or Casino which has a Harrah's owned Cardroom within 60 miles is permitted to run a WSOP Satellite. ALEA is in Nottingham, & ALEA is owned by LCI, in turn owned by Harrahs.

[tikay]

Was Matt Savage present in London in his role as WPT Executive Tour director?


Secondly it does seem ironic, and odd, that the "top" end of the market sees players effectively fleeced on juice, image rights, little value added and the like while at the bottom end of the market players are in many places playing juice free with added value.

I never saw him, but I did see Mike Sexton, who is the Party Poker Ambassador*. Party, of course, now own the WPT.

* I have always thought it a very odd notion to have someone as an Online Site "Ambassador". Nice, though.

[The Camel]

Jake, did they ask you if you wanted to leave a tip after you won?

[TightEnd]

Party of course, being a UK quoted company who have an image to maintain and might respond to bad publicity.........just saying.

[The Camel]

Party of course, being a UK quoted company who have an image to maintain and might respond to bad publicity.........just saying.

Tighty making a bid for AndrewT's title as "the funniest man on blonde"

[titaniumbean]

Jake, did they ask you if you wanted to leave a tip after you won?

if they did they are sub human scum

[RED-DOG]

Jake, did they ask you if you wanted to leave a tip after you won?

if they did they are sub human scum

Lol. What adjectives do you keep in reserve for murderers and paedophiles?

[tikay]

Jake, did they ask you if you wanted to leave a tip after you won?

if they did they are sub human scum

I think you've lost just a tinsy-winsy bit of perspective there.

[titaniumbean]

There are much worse things to call peados and murderers!

[titaniumbean]

This is prob one of the best places to bring this up.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/65/mttc-live/discuss-wpt-details-executive-tournament-director-matt-savage-831192/index3.html

[JaffaCake]

I agree, vote with your feet, don't play events that have this much juice, esp when it's 'hidden'. Be interesting if someone does ask Matt Savage on the other forum why it's listed as a five lump comp when it obv isn't. He seems a very nice and straight forward guy and is forever saying how much he has the poker players at heart when he does stuff like coming up with ridic good structures (he played some WSOP events this year, think he made a final, so I guess he should understand our needs).

Btw I think the OP was more to draw the attention of the players to the fact that the poor ole dealers didn't get a tip, just their wages....dry em. Not only do I think expecting tipping is completely wrong, I played down the Palm Beach two weeks ago and haven't seen such a poor standard or dealing for years, misdeals (one guy managed two in a row and on the third tried to put the blinds up lol), not collecting antes, missing action, dealing flops before the bb checks, not tapping the table before dealing a flop so we could stop mistakes....the only tip I'd give their dealers is watch how the GUKPT and EPT guys deal and learn

[relaedgc]

I don't disagree with you, Jeff. Yet, if they're taking £35k for 'the dealers' and the dealers aren't even getting any of it, that's still not right.

[Simon Tomsett]

  The quotes attributed to me in this post have no foundation in fact whatsoever. The OP can by all means contact me personally to discuss.

  I am the person responsible for this event, including the WPT and Bellagio team contracts. The Bellagio team were responsible for 15 % attendance of the Field travelling from the US including P Ivey. No one can argue the attendances and cash action were less the disappointing, creating a significant loss to the Palm Beach. The Partouche event in Cannes had a big impact on the numbers. The buy in in Cannes was EU 8500 with EU 1500 taken in juice per player.

 Lessons will be taken from this event, I made no agreements with any of my staff regarding deductions. For the benefit of any doubt this weekend the EPO buy in is £3.5k with £250 taken in fees, no other deductions.

[outragous76]

  The quotes attributed to me in this post have no foundation in fact whatsoever. The OP can by all means contact me personally to discuss.

  I am the person responsible for this event, including the WPT and Bellagio team contracts. The Bellagio team were responsible for 15 % attendance of the Field travelling from the US including P Ivey. No one can argue the attendances and cash action were less the disappointing, creating a significant loss to the Palm Beach. The Partouche event in Cannes had a big impact on the numbers. The buy in in Cannes was EU 8500 with EU 1500 taken in juice per player.

 Lessons will be taken from this event, I made no agreements with any of my staff regarding deductions. For the benefit of any doubt this weekend the EPO buy in is £3.5k with £250 taken in fees, no other deductions.

can you adress the real issues that concern players like hidden juice, misappropiration of funds etc etc

that would be the type of response we are looking for, not the above

[tikay]

  The quotes attributed to me in this post have no foundation in fact whatsoever. The OP can by all means contact me personally to discuss.

  I am the person responsible for this event, including the WPT and Bellagio team contracts. The Bellagio team were responsible for 15 % attendance of the Field travelling from the US including P Ivey. No one can argue the attendances and cash action were less the disappointing, creating a significant loss to the Palm Beach. The Partouche event in Cannes had a big impact on the numbers. The buy in in Cannes was EU 8500 with EU 1500 taken in juice per player.

 Lessons will be taken from this event, I made no agreements with any of my staff regarding deductions. For the benefit of any doubt this weekend the EPO buy in is £3.5k with £250 taken in fees, no other deductions.

I have e-Mailed you Simon.