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« on: September 10, 2010, 07:37:53 PM »

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I get dealt 88 UTG and raise it up to $1. I probably should have made it $1.25 as there is a dead blind in the pot but didn't notice that (possibly playing too many tables).

I end up getting called in three spots. flop comes a scary looking . I have hit a bottom set but the board is very wet. UTG checks so I bet $3 into the pot (too small or about right?). I then get raised to $7 and the player who originally checked to me cold calls. Action back to me with bottom set?

They can't have AA or KK as they would surely have reraised preflop. it can't be tens or jacks either and draws look unlikely. Should I be folding my set here?

PokerStars Game #49416131575:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2010/09/10 18:35:10 WET [2010/09/10 13:35:10 ET]
Table 'Nestor IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Fischer-Frit ($26.01 in chips)
Seat 2: Soufian-02 ($50.04 in chips)
Seat 3: WimHell ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: MarkD1956 ($56.55 in chips)
Seat 5: 33teetwo33 ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: Johnny Bravs ($25 in chips)
WimHell: posts small blind $0.10
MarkD1956: posts big blind $0.25
Johnny Bravs: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 33teetwo33 [ ]
33teetwo33: raises $0.75 to $1
Johnny Bravs: calls $0.75
Fischer-Frit: folds
Soufian-02: calls $1
WimHell: folds
MarkD1956: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [ ]
MarkD1956: checks
33teetwo33: bets $3
Johnny Bravs: raises $4 to $7
Soufian-02: folds
MarkD1956: calls $7
33teetwo33:
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 07:44:56 PM »

Not sure why that flop is scary?  You've flopped a set and are well ahead of the other players' ranges.

Re-raise for me.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 07:51:54 PM »

I've tried answering these online nitfest posts before and it always seems like I get it wrong.

My normal feeling if I hit a set is that I want to get all the money in.

I'm not scared of anything other than maybe making someone fold if I overplay it.

I'm going to stick with my usual 'try to find a way of getting as much money in the middle as soon as possible' line but I'm guessing one of the reg grinders will tell me I'm wrong.

Just put in a raise to about $13 and snap any shove.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 07:57:22 PM »

never, ever folding. flop is not really that wet. there's not much to be scared of, if they've got it then meh

easy fold at full ring though
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 08:05:44 PM »

Not sure why that flop is scary?  You've flopped a set and are well ahead of the other players' ranges.

Re-raise for me.
Am I. I honestly don't know hence the post, so you are probably right. I had no info on the players as I had only been at the table about two rounds. Just unsure what two players can be so interested with that I am ahead. Surely it is a shove or fold?

What range should I put them on here. There is no flush draw and no real straight draw. If it was one player he could have two pair quite easily or some really strangely played AA or KK even. But I have shown strength all the way through the hand and then somebody wants to raise me and somebody else wants to play too? My hand is still much stronger than what I am repping though I suppose.

I know it is hard to say but what range do you put them on? QQ, 99 and J-10 just seems really likely here. When reviewing hands I normally can figure out if I made a mistake or not but I was not sure here. Sounds like it is a reraise/possible shove then. I guess two pair is calling a shove and AQ might be as well.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 08:10:34 PM »

the board is very wet

There is no flush draw and no real straight draw.

make your mind up
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 08:15:06 PM »

the board is very wet

There is no flush draw and no real straight draw.

make your mind up
I can't thats the problem, although I didn't notice I had done that *lol*. Which of my statements (which are totally opposite of each other) is correct? I am so confused about this hand. Not sure why as it looks like you guys are fairly sure it is a simple reraise.

I shoved by the way, anything wrong with that play, should I raise less?

PokerStars Game #49416131575:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2010/09/10 18:35:10 WET [2010/09/10 13:35:10 ET]
Table 'Nestor IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Fischer-Frit ($26.01 in chips)
Seat 2: Soufian-02 ($50.04 in chips)
Seat 3: WimHell ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: MarkD1956 ($56.55 in chips)
Seat 5: 33teetwo33 ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: Johnny Bravs ($25 in chips)
WimHell: posts small blind $0.10
MarkD1956: posts big blind $0.25
Johnny Bravs: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 33teetwo33 [ ]
33teetwo33: raises $0.75 to $1
Johnny Bravs: calls $0.75
Fischer-Frit: folds
Soufian-02: calls $1
WimHell: folds
MarkD1956: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [ ]
MarkD1956: checks
33teetwo33: bets $3
Johnny Bravs: raises $4 to $7
Soufian-02: folds
MarkD1956: calls $7
33teetwo33: raises $17 to $24 and is all-in
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2010, 08:27:18 PM »

ffs, my apostrophes broke again.

were only worried about 3 hands and 1 of those wouldve reraised pre, and 99 may have as well. if we happen to run into TJ then that sucks but thats the thing about ranges, theyll sometimes have the bit we dont want to see. we still have outs anyway
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2010, 09:44:47 PM »

the board is very wet

There is no flush draw and no real straight draw.

make your mind up
I can't thats the problem, although I didn't notice I had done that *lol*. Which of my statements (which are totally opposite of each other) is correct? I am so confused about this hand. Not sure why as it looks like you guys are fairly sure it is a simple reraise.

I shoved by the way, anything wrong with that play, should I raise less?

PokerStars Game #49416131575:  Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2010/09/10 18:35:10 WET [2010/09/10 13:35:10 ET]
Table 'Nestor IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Fischer-Frit ($26.01 in chips)
Seat 2: Soufian-02 ($50.04 in chips)
Seat 3: WimHell ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: MarkD1956 ($56.55 in chips)
Seat 5: 33teetwo33 ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: Johnny Bravs ($25 in chips)
WimHell: posts small blind $0.10
MarkD1956: posts big blind $0.25
Johnny Bravs: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 33teetwo33 [ ]
33teetwo33: raises $0.75 to $1
Johnny Bravs: calls $0.75
Fischer-Frit: folds
Soufian-02: calls $1
WimHell: folds
MarkD1956: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [ ]
MarkD1956: checks
33teetwo33: bets $3
Johnny Bravs: raises $4 to $7
Soufian-02: folds
MarkD1956: calls $7
33teetwo33: raises $17 to $24 and is all-in

With the raise and the call, your only raise here is all-in.  You could also flat call and then let them bet the turn before you go all-in in order to see if you can get some more in the pot. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 10:12:12 PM »

OK thanks guy's. I am now happy I played it right, they both had J-10 believe it or not but I was just using ROT there. Will have to try and stop doing that. I suppose I am not in that terrible of a spot anyway in that particular hand.

Reading back though your posts I understand it is never a fold.
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