starting or answering a thread in the staking forum.

[The Captain]

As most of you know I am  an amiable quite unassuming chap, someone you would hardly notice in a card room or a public library etc.. a wall flower if you will.... so please be patient with me as a I write this shall we say observation about a tiny detail that was ever so slightly annoying last evening. I wanted to reply to the Camel's post describing the exit he made from the Epo (the fact that the bloke had the bare baboon arsed nerve to ask for peoples money is beyond me, but thats another story for another time) but alas it seems that if I haven't accrued 500 or so post's (I stand to be corrected?) then I cant add my views,ask for staking, offer to stake, or tell you how brilliantly I played but ultimately got sent home by some fish who was chasing a one outer made  on the river etc etc ad nauseum ad inifinitum.

So to the point: if I had posted 500 post's of absolute crap about me for example "going into the office" or being "stuck on the train" or "retiring for the 1000th time from poker" or what "Mrs BF or young BF might or might not be having for breakfast" or "Depending on whether my DSS giro clears on time  I may or may not  go " or "whether there is enough time in the day to write a load of bollox about how depressed I am on the one hand yet how good life is on the other hand." or writing in code something like "much lolage or cabbage or whatever the words are, I could go on but you get the picture.

So lets say I did make the  required amount of posts and was then able to ask for staking, what I ask did I or anyone else gain from waiting a day or two while I rattled off the said nonsense? Would anyone back anyone they didn't know or a least know something about? The Board bosse's already quite rightly state that all transactions are between the parties themselves and have nothing to do with Blonde, so what is the reason in denying me access to the staking forum because I dont have the required number of posts.

I have been around for a good many years and I can assure you all that if I was to stake someone they would get there money, and like I said if  was to ask for staking (about the same odds as drain posting something I would find interesting, or chumpy inviting me to be his best man ) then surely you would have the common sense to ignore the post or find out more.

Thanks very kindly for any sensible replies.

yours ever

Stephen

[pokerfan]

Much cabbage.

[Longy]

Is this meant to be funny? Feel like I am getting whooshed.

[Claw75]

it's 300 posts Stephen, and it's there as a safety net (although obviously some bad apples will still get through, and some other reliable people won't be able to use the staking boards for some time).  There's never going to be a perfect solution, but personally I think the 300 posts measure is a reasonable one.  It's the only part of the forum where a minimum post count is required, although I can appreciate it might be frustrating if you want to post a reply to something specific on one of the threads there.  As you point out, staking deals are private arrangements between individuals, but I still think that some element of control over who uses those boards here is a good thing for the community, otherwise they would inevitably become clogged with posts from new members joining specifically to look for backing.  There are plenty of other forums/avenues available to individuals who want to get involved in staking arrangements outside of blonde.

[celtic]

Lol.

[Claw75]

Lol.

have i been wooshed?

[TightEnd]

it's 300 posts Stephen, and it's there as a safety net (although obviously some bad apples will still get through, and some other reliable people won't be able to use the staking boards for some time).  There's never going to be a perfect solution, but personally I think the 300 posts measure is a reasonable one.  It's the only part of the forum where a minimum post count is required, although I can appreciate it might be frustrating if you want to post a reply to something specific on one of the threads there.  As you point out, staking deals are private arrangements between individuals, but I still think that some element of control over who uses those boards here is a good thing for the community, otherwise they would inevitably become clogged with posts from new members joining specifically to look for backing.  There are plenty of other forums/avenues available to individuals who want to get involved in staking arrangements outside of blonde.

Almost saves me posting a reply Stephen


For the record the 300 posts is an arbitrary limit. It's not designed to affect reasonable and reputable people like you, who've been around a long time but don't post very much, more to act as a safety net as Claw says. Of course there is no substitute for research by the stakee and nothing to say a poster with more than 300 posts might be unscrupulous, as we've found.

However what it does do is provide a cooling off period where newbies wanting to come on and get staked have 300 posts to form an impression, and potential stakers get to know them. Equally the mods can work out fairly easily which posters are posting nonsense to get to 300 posts pretty quickly

There is one other area where a post count requirement is needed and that's 10 posts to be able to use the PM service. This prevents well first time posters coming on an a) spammin commerical serives by PM or b) block PMing porn by PM, both of which have occurred in the past. 

I know Stephen that at some stage you were intending to post your views on staking, we discussed it face to face at Luton and you have strong views. That would be an interesting debate, given your long experiences in the field, if you wished to start that...
 

[gatso]

Lol.

have i been wooshed?

lolol

[EvilPie]

Personally the 300 post rule doesn't mean too much to me.

If someone has 30000 posts and I don't know them I won't stake them.

If they have 3 posts and I've known them for years I'll stake them.

You seem like a sensible person who is reasonably well known but I won't be staking you as I haven't got a clue who you are.

As for the "500 posts of absolute crap" thing. I don't think it makes a difference in getting staked. The people who stake on here aren't completely stupid.

People get staked either because they're well liked or because they're a +EV prospect.

I honestly can't see a problem with people who have 30 posts asking for staking. If people don't know them they won't get staked, simple as that.

I guess by restricting it in this way it stops the board getting cluttered by random beggars but other than that I don't think it's a great guide at all.

[pleno1]

300 post is a good rule imo. If not we'd get so many people coming on begging to be staked, all the BBP crew etc. Atm there is some seriously +ev investments notably James Keys London (+Dublin) package and Keith Mfkin Hawkings 0.85:1 EPO package.

[ripple11]

I wanted to reply to the Camel's post describing the exit he made from the Epo

you don't need 300 posts to do that.

[celtic]

Can't post on the staking board without 300 posts Nick.

[ripple11]

Can't post on the staking board without 300 posts Nick.

Oh....thought  just comments was OK.

Post the comments on hand analysis board then 

[The Captain]

Thanks kindly for your replies:

POKERFAN nope sorry didn't understand a word of your well thought out and measured reply,something about leafy green vegetables from the family Brassicaceae, am I to assume your excited and  will be eating some any time soon?

LONGY again thank you but I have never knowingly "whooshed" anyone unless of course your including Alison carter on a school trip to the science museum in about 1971

CLAW75 Thanks very kindly for your reply it has made things a little clearer.

TIGHTEND likewise a very helpful reply, I do indeed have a serious point i wish to discuss about staking but where should one post it ? I would like those that use the staking forum to read it and comment.

EVILPIE thankyou for taking the time to reply I agree with you entirely.

PLENO1 in your opinion certainly not mine.

CLAW75 perhaps you could explain Whooshed to me, as you clearly think I may have done it to you?

[Laxie]

I do indeed have a serious point i wish to discuss about staking but where should one post it ? I would like those that use the staking forum to read it and comment.

Either carry on with this thread or start a new one in the 'Rail' section of the forum.  Once 'staking' is mentioned in the title they'll read it.