Sick spot early in $1kwcoop

[Longy]

I am struggling to think why people who play 1,40 or 400 tournies a day should make a different decision.

If a decision is correct against a certain range it is correct. Just the guy who plays one tourney a day will take 6 weeks to come to the same results as the guy who plays 40 tournies and over a year to reach the same results someone who plays 400.

Ofc there is the "Tikay" rule of being in poker to enjoy it, that is all well and good but this board really should be advising what is the best decision to make money.

[outragous76]

So there is only 1 way to play a mid pocket pair off a 70 bb stack? Ok

[StuartHopkin]

So there is only 1 way to play a mid pocket pair off a 70 bb stack? Ok

Theres a few depending on what range you put the other guy on. 

[DMorgan]

So there is only 1 way to play a mid pocket pair off a 70 bb stack? Ok

There is only one optimal way to play a hand vs villains range when he has a 70bb stack

Obviously in reality we can only make what we believe to be the optimal play against what be believe his range to be.

[NigDawG]

lol what??!?!?!

He has AQ approx 105% of the time here, congrats on cold decking him.

yeah hes jamming AQ for value and epecting to get called by exactly QK?

Pretty much, river is puke for him but he can't exactly check fold can he.

+1

this is basically exactly how i think he would play AQ, hoping you can't fold Qx (which given the action u almost certainly have) and lol he should never have Q8/QJ/Q3/33/JJ.

i think KQ would be too thin for value so i guess if he does show up with this he's trying to fold out the same hand. seems suicidal tho given the river hits you quite a bit and u have AQ a good portion of the time too.


if he did have QQ tho, there are no more queens in the deck so for you to be raising flop on this dry a board early in a 1k it gives him a fairly good indication you have exactly 88. for that reason he should probably shove turn with his hand cos ur like never folding.

but yeh, making quads is f difficult to do since there are only 4 queens in the deck and two of them are on the board....a lot easier for him to just have one of them with the best kicker in the deck.



some stove stuff that might be useful....


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 124  games     0.005 secs    24,800  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    48.387%     38.71%    09.68%                48           12.00   { AQs, AQo }
Hand 1:    51.613%     41.94%    09.68%                52           12.00   { 88, AQs, KQs, Q8s+, AQo, KQo, QJo }



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  27  games     0.005 secs     5,400  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    88.889%     88.89%    00.00%                24            0.00   { 88 }
Hand 1:    11.111%     11.11%    00.00%                 3            0.00   { QQ, AQs, AQo }

[sovietsong]

beer

- any update

[Rupert]

be surprised if doesnt value jam AQ on river

[pleno1]

timing tells on rivar?

[thechemist83]

I played the hand badly I think by not open shoving the turn or reraising the flop (incase scare card hits turn in my Qx range, which is pretty much the same as my overpair range) .  I was quite sure he had 88 and 88 only since i had all the queens.  I think we can safely assume he never thinks I have QJ, so I really thought he was calling the river since he called the turn.  His perception of my range shouldn't change from turn to river when the jack rolls off as I'm checkraising the turn with QJ exactly never (which is why i played the turn badly).  Either he has me on turn and river or doesn't have me on turn and river.  I think he should call river if he calls turn.  With all of that said, great laydown, but I think you should fold to the checkraise on turn if you're folding river.

[outragous76]

I played the hand badly I think by not open shoving the turn or reraising the flop (incase scare card hits turn in my Qx range, which is pretty much the same as my overpair range) .  I was quite sure he had 88 and 88 only since i had all the queens.  I think we can safely assume he never thinks I have QJ, so I really thought he was calling the river since he called the turn.  His perception of my range shouldn't change from turn to river when the jack rolls off as I'm checkraising the turn with QJ exactly never (which is why i played the turn badly).  Either he has me on turn and river or doesn't have me on turn and river.  I think he should call river if he calls turn.  With all of that said, great laydown.

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[George2Loose]

I played the hand badly I think by not open shoving the turn or reraising the flop (incase scare card hits turn in my Qx range, which is pretty much the same as my overpair range) .  I was quite sure he had 88 and 88 only since i had all the queens.  I think we can safely assume he never thinks I have QJ, so I really thought he was calling the river since he called the turn.  His perception of my range shouldn't change from turn to river when the jack rolls off as I'm checkraising the turn with QJ exactly never (which is why i played the turn badly).  Either he has me on turn and river or doesn't have me on turn and river.  I think he should call river if he calls turn.  With all of that said, great laydown, but I think you should fold to the checkraise on turn if you're folding river.

Sick foldage Triggar

[George2Loose]

Even more awesome if trigg has created the account

[outragous76]

Even more awesome if trigg has created the account

i did think that

[Horneris]

Even more awesome if trigg has created the account

i did think that

me too, until he used the term "perception of my range" rather than "what i might have got in me and".

[AlexMartin]

combos of AQ>>combos of QJ played this way and ill allow 1 combo of QQ played exceptionally unusually (given we cannot have a calling range).

snap, not close.