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[SuuPRlim]

What do people think of this spot?


***** Hand History for Game 24034977186 ***** (Full Tilt)
$100.00 USD PL Omaha - Sunday, September 19, 03:55:50 ET 2010
Table Badgerglen (6 max ante deep) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 2: Pailai ( $159.90 USD )
Seat 3: SirGAMBLE11 ( $364.50 USD )
Seat 4: Susannie ( $61.35 USD )
Seat 5: sprediton ( $412.35 USD )
Seat 6: lildavefish ( $319.35 USD )
Susannie posts ante of [$0.20 USD].
SirGAMBLE11 posts ante of [$0.20 USD].
lildavefish posts ante of [$0.20 USD].
Pailai posts ante of [$0.20 USD].
sprediton posts ante of [$0.20 USD].
Pailai posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
SirGAMBLE11 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lildavefish [  ]
Susannie folds
sprediton raises [$4.50 USD]
lildavefish calls [$4.50 USD]
Pailai calls [$4.00 USD]
SirGAMBLE11 raises [$22.50 USD]
sprediton calls [$19.00 USD]
lildavefish calls [$19.00 USD]
Pailai folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
SirGAMBLE11 checks
sprediton checks
lildavefish checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
SirGAMBLE11 checks
sprediton checks
lildavefish checks
** Dealing River ** [ ]
SirGAMBLE11 bets [$76.00 USD]
sprediton folds
lildavefish.........................?


Villain is a pretty solid reg, got history HU and he takes really wierd lines a ton.
spredition is also pretty good + usually plays higher.

[GreekStein]

i do a call here.

Could raise/fold hu if he didn't bet so much but that's not a valid option here so it's either fold or call. Seeing as I see too many stupid terrible bluffs and valuebets that shouldn't be valuebets with non boat hands here I cawl.

[SuuPRlim]

do you think he checks any non house J combos on the flop? how many actual combo's are there to limp 3bet pre flop?

[ACE2M]

flip a coin on the call. Its a quality bet either way imo.

[DMorgan]

I probably call pretty quick. He doesn't exactly rep much imo

[SuuPRlim]

I probably call pretty quick. He doesn't exactly rep much imo

If we assume that he never checks a non house J on the flop (and that there are virtually zero J6xx combo's that 3bet pre) and that he probs wont Vbet a smaller flush hardly ever, then his value range here looked to me like JJ/KK......
But surely this is NEVER ever a bluff?
Flipping the coin might be best lol

Also what do people think about bet/folding the turn?

[TheFlame]

can we not bet turn here?

[NoflopsHomer]

Pretty sure this is a fold as this is nearly always a boat or quads. Solid regs are not betting worse hands here vs two players. I do probably bet/fold turn.

Also, I fold pre fwiw.

[SuuPRlim]

Also what do people think about bet/folding the turn?

can we not bet turn here?

I do probably bet/fold turn.

Yeah I think this is a great spot to bet/fold turn, as Im sure we can crediby rep KK which we block, plus we can get called by AA, and similar p/fd hands in the second spot.

Also, I fold pre fwiw.

Yeah I agree this is a strong case to fold pre - although I think because we're playing decent regs we can give them a range wide enough to make this call pretty meh either way I think