Gross spot WCOOP main

[George2Loose]

mycraft is pretty loose and quite bad. Making really thin calls and gettign there.

Allofit has been solid- not seen him do anythign out of line.

Assuming allofit isn't bluffing- what hand combo's do I beat? Is this a fold against his range? Cant see allofit having an overpair here too often considering he overcalled pre

PokerStars Game #50230967336: Tournament #2010090062, $5000+$200 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (250/500) - 2010/09/27 4:19:44 WET [2010/09/26 23:19:44 ET]
Table '2010090062 246' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: flpro157 (55058 in chips)
Seat 2: amrasaralond (13818 in chips)
Seat 3: Mycraft (120373 in chips)
Seat 4: sakpoker (39077 in chips)
Seat 5: ChAtBan (37177 in chips)
Seat 6: _R4PEL4DOR_ (36928 in chips)
Seat 7: allofit29 (18594 in chips)
Seat 8: Pete9910 (19950 in chips)
Seat 9: George2Loose (25810 in chips)
flpro157: posts the ante 60
amrasaralond: posts the ante 60
Mycraft: posts the ante 60
sakpoker: posts the ante 60
ChAtBan: posts the ante 60
_R4PEL4DOR_: posts the ante 60
allofit29: posts the ante 60
Pete9910: posts the ante 60
George2Loose: posts the ante 60
Pete9910: posts small blind 250
George2Loose: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ ]
flpro157: folds
amrasaralond: folds
Mycraft: raises 1000 to 1500
sakpoker: folds
ChAtBan: calls 1500
_R4PEL4DOR_: folds
allofit29: calls 1500
Pete9910: folds
George2Loose: calls 1000
*** FLOP *** [ ]
George2Loose: checks
Mycraft: bets 4000
ChAtBan: folds
allofit29: raises 13034 to 17034 and is all-in
George2Loose

[Rupert]

i'd fold pre call now

[LeKnave]

loool this aint gross at all. snap get it in.

[George2Loose]

o rly? What hands is he realistically shoving here with? Maybe I've turned into a nitnitnintnitnitint

Pre HU or even 3 way I may fold but 4 way I think a call is ok?

[Rupert]

what do u lose to

[LeKnave]

TT+, 88, 8x

[George2Loose]

TT+, 88, 8x

so he just peels pre with an over pair and then jams on a 9 high board???

I deffo see 88 in his range. Was the only hand I could see myself being in good shape against

[The Camel]

TT+, 88, 8x

so he just peels pre with an over pair and then jams on a 9 high board???

I deffo see 88 in his range. Was the only hand I could see myself being in good shape against

George, you need to take from poker if you think 88 is the only hand he can have that you are in good shape against.

Absolutely easy call.

If you are beat, nh him. You cannot possibly fold here.

[George2Loose]

TT+, 88, 8x

so he just peels pre with an over pair and then jams on a 9 high board???

I deffo see 88 in his range. Was the only hand I could see myself being in good shape against

George, you need to take from poker if you think 88 is the only hand he can have that you are in good shape against.

Absolutely easy call.

If you are beat, nh him. You cannot possibly fold here.

Not saying it's the only hand in his range. Do you agree with Dave's range here ie 88 and tens plus? I just cant see why he would flat tens or jacks and then just jam flop against an ep raiser betting into 3 people (admittedly a loose player). QQ+ raises pre no?

So what does that realistically leave? Maybe I'm tightening up cos I don't play 5k buy ins everyday or maybe assigning villian a tighter range due to it being a 5k buy. IDK

[Rupert]

sure there isn't a ton he jams with, but you have blockers to half the hands that beat you and T8 is fairly unlikely cos he might not peel pre/probs wont jam the flop with it etc and theres not really any two pairs you can expect him to call pre

so he just peels pre with an over pair and then jams on a 9 high board???

so ya pretty much

[Horneris]

Scared money don't make money!!!

[pleno1]

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

  36,630  games     0.001 secs    36,630,000  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    53.593%     51.04%    02.55%             18696          935.00   { 7c6c }
Hand 1:    46.407%     43.85%    02.55%             16064          935.00   { QQ-66, 98s, 86s+, 76s }


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[outragous76]

I think he shows up with 88 or 89 alot of the time here. Don't think I'm ever folding. Just win the flip, you are g2l

[NigDawG]

never ever folding here this shallow george. even if you put like 97s and T8s into his range he still gonna have 87s,98s,T9s,88,TT,JJ enough (they quite feasibly all flat pre) imo.

spot becomes awkward if you're all 100bb deep

[GreekStein]

Fold pre. Should defo fold pre if you flop as big as this and still wanna fold.

Shortie can have 88, 98, overpairs, 910, 78 etc.

Hard for him to have set of 6's or 7's and 9's up, which means by not wanting to call you're putting his range on 99, 108 and 85?