APAT Issues: Rules/Payouts/deals

[Karabiner]

I seem to remember that one of the keynotes in the setting up of APAT was to try and establish standardised rules.

[byronkincaid]

I seem to remember that one of the keynotes in the setting up of APAT was to try and establish standardised rules.

and getting poker into the olympic games!

 

[StuartHopkin]

Cf, you can't just start incl rr at will. You either use them or you don't. There are several key differences (such as rules at showdown) etc.

What's this got to do with the penny sweets?

[RED-DOG]

please stop posting in blue cf - I can't read your posts without highlighting them first and it's it's a pain the arse

He highlights his posts in blue?

[TightEnd]

I seem to remember that one of the keynotes in the setting up of APAT was to try and establish standardised rules.

still is, and there has been some progress. For example the Head of Poker at Grosvenor has agreed to join an Association committee aimed at heading towards standardised rules with the other major live providers. Takes a while though for various reasons

[Claw75]

but some APAT rules aren't even consistently applied in their own events 

[TightEnd]

but some APAT rules aren't even consistently applied in their own events 

They are. Or should be, applied consistently across all events.

[Claw75]

but some APAT rules aren't even consistently applied in their own events 

They are. Or should be, applied consistently across all events.

Yes I know gameplay rules are.  Was just talking about this one really, but it's a horse that's been flogged many times before:

APL will not support or facilitate any form of deal making in an APAT event.

[TightEnd]

ok, but different issue. Thanks for raising it though 

[Cf]

Cf, you can't just start incl rr at will. You either use them or you don't. There are several key differences (such as rules at showdown) etc.

Fair point - DTD don't explicitly use them.

But TDA rules aren't designed to cover everything. They cover tournament specific situations and ignore a lot of the more fundamental rules of the game. TDA rules are designed to work on top of your in house rules. There may be one or two minor differences (feel free to quote me any major differences) - in this scenario I believe you follow the TDA version.

I've looked at DTDs rules on their site. They have TDA and a few of their own house rules, but they aren't extensive enough to cover every scenario - including this one.

The ruling given in OP was because 3 people had acted behind. This rule is from RRs so i'm assuming that's what they're following.

[Claw75]

ok, but different issue. Thanks for raising it though 

it's listed in the rules though   you're welcome!

[TightEnd]

ok, but different issue. Thanks for raising it though 

it's listed in the rules though   you're welcome!

It is, but as you mention it its not as simple as that. APAT has run two European events this year, successfully, where the priority has been to spread the word first, and not be totally rigid as to our principles with Poker cultures different than our own.

[gatso]

APL will not support or facilitate any form of deal making in an APAT event.

1) what's apl?
2) if one aim of apat is to have standardised rules why introduce one that most players disagree with that goes against pretty much everyone else in the game?

[Claw75]

ok, but different issue. Thanks for raising it though 

it's listed in the rules though   you're welcome!

It is, but as you mention it its not as simple as that. APAT has run two European events this year, successfully, where the priority has been to spread the word first, and not be totally rigid as to our principles with Poker cultures different than our own.

wasn't really talking about the European events, more the one rule for amateur events and another for open events.

[TightEnd]

ok, but different issue. Thanks for raising it though 

it's listed in the rules though   you're welcome!

It is, but as you mention it its not as simple as that. APAT has run two European events this year, successfully, where the priority has been to spread the word first, and not be totally rigid as to our principles with Poker cultures different than our own.

wasn't really talking about the European events, more the one rule for amateur events and another for open events.

its consistent. the Amateur only events are different from those open to Pros too.