Horrible Level Spot

[SuuPRlim]

Villain is a really solid Reg at these stakes and we have a reasonable amount of history from playing HU, although havent played heads up for about 8-12 months

Full Tilt Poker Game #24432673262: Table Lost (6 max) - $1/$2 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 16:05:52 ET - 2010/10/04
Seat 1: Dzunglipoiss ($687.45)
Seat 2: BadPete_1 ($502.85)
Seat 3: JohnyBlaze ($266)
Seat 4: yayabigidiot ($922.85)
Seat 5: PeterPan0405 ($326.80)
Seat 6: lildavefish ($388.15)
JohnyBlaze posts the small blind of $1
yayabigidiot posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lildavefish [ ]
PeterPan0405 folds
lildavefish has 15 seconds left to act
lildavefish raises to $7
Dzunglipoiss has 15 seconds left to act
Dzunglipoiss folds
BadPete_1 raises to $24
JohnyBlaze folds
yayabigidiot folds
lildavefish calls $17
*** FLOP *** [ ]
lildavefish has 15 seconds left to act
PeterPan0405 stands up
lildavefish checks
BadPete_1 bets $40
lildavefish calls $40
*** TURN *** [ ] []
lildavefish has 15 seconds left to act
lildavefish checks
BadPete_1 checks
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
lildavefish has 15 seconds left to act
lildavefish checks
BadPete_1 has 15 seconds left to act
BadPete_1 bets $88
lildavefish ? ? ?

Have 3400 hands of 6max on him and his 3bet from the blinds % is 4 so his range is tight for sure - but he knows how loose I open the btn/co.

Thoughts on River, and thoughts on all streets?

[DMorgan]

Meh, super close spot. I wanna call 'cos he can be completely FOS but I also wanna fold 'cos your hand looks a lot like a medium strength hand that didn't wanna get c/red off on the turn and is gunna snap the river.

You have blockers to KQJx type hands aswell so its harder for him to have bluffs, I dunno I probably just fold

Would have def c/red the flop though fwiw

[scotty2hatty]

call

[GreekStein]

fold

[SuuPRlim]

Do you think he is more likely to have AAxx or hearts if he is beating me?

[Patonius2000]

I would definitely c/c flop. You can't cr/jam vs someone who 3bs this infrequently and you just need this hand in your c/c range. River you can probably check jam anything that is a set or worse and just call all your small flushes and jam Jx+flushes. 89xx 45xx/nut low flushes are interesting, if he never bets AAxx on the river and checks back the turn with a lot of medium flushes then you want to be folding or shoving but if he can vbet worse and doenst have many flushes in his range and a bunch of air then call will be better.

[AlexMartin]

I would definitely c/c flop. You can't cr/jam vs someone who 3bs this infrequently and you just need this hand in your c/c range. River you can probably check jam anything that is a set or worse and just call all your small flushes and jam Jx+flushes. 89xx 45xx/nut low flushes are interesting, if he never bets AAxx on the river and checks back the turn with a lot of medium flushes then you want to be folding or shoving but if he can vbet worse and doenst have many flushes in his range and a bunch of air then call will be better.

re-read HH.

this is geniuinely tough, depends if he thinks we can reach the river with a high flush.

[Patonius2000]

I would definitely c/c flop. You can't cr/jam vs someone who 3bs this infrequently and you just need this hand in your c/c range. River you can probably check jam anything that is a set or worse and just call all your small flushes and jam Jx+flushes. 89xx 45xx/nut low flushes are interesting, if he never bets AAxx on the river and checks back the turn with a lot of medium flushes then you want to be folding or shoving but if he can vbet worse and doenst have many flushes in his range and a bunch of air then call will be better.

re-read HH.

this is geniuinely tough, depends if he thinks we can reach the river with a high flush.

Read it fine the first time?? If we can't reach the river with a high flush we're doing something seriously wrong but yeah you're right it depends what he thinks obviously.

[Ironside]

From his line I think aaxx with hearts is possible and he is looking at feigning weekness to get you to commit more chips when he has a lock

[neverbluff67]

PLO is a silly, silly game

[NoflopsHomer]

From his line I think aaxx with hearts is possible and he is looking at feigning weekness to get you to commit more chips when he has a lock

Oh god I agree. I think I just threw up in my mouth.

[SuuPRlim]

PLO is a silly, silly game

+1

[SuuPRlim]

In your opinions, how standard is it for someone to Vbet AAxx naked here? I think it's safe to say he'd never expect me to fold any flush vs him here, but then the amount of smaller heart combo's I can have are limited, so it's quite possible he's betting for value vs a medium/high strength flopped hand.

AAxx is exactly the same hand as  small flush relative, and - like you say - if he doesn't think I have many high flushes then he could easily Vbet AA, or a small flush, or even 89.

I dont think he makes this bet ever for anything but value, unless he has maybe ATxx with Ahearts and is turnign his hand into a bluff somehow or attempting a crazxy merge cos he knows im a bit of a sheriff in these spots. So surely this rules a call out as I cant really beat anythign in his value range,

JAM or FOLD ?

[Ironside]

In your opinions, how standard is it for someone to Vbet AAxx naked here? I think it's safe to say he'd never expect me to fold any flush vs him here, but then the amount of smaller heart combo's I can have are limited, so it's quite possible he's betting for value vs a medium/high strength flopped hand.

AAxx is exactly the same hand as  small flush relative, and - like you say - if he doesn't think I have many high flushes then he could easily Vbet AA, or a small flush, or even 89.

I dont think he makes this bet ever for anything but value, unless he has maybe ATxx with Ahearts and is turnign his hand into a bluff somehow or attempting a crazxy merge cos he knows im a bit of a sheriff in these spots. So surely this rules a call out as I cant really beat anythign in his value range,

JAM or FOLD ?

all your beating is a bluff its an easy fold IMHO

[AlexMartin]

I would definitely c/c flop. You can't cr/jam vs someone who 3bs this infrequently and you just need this hand in your c/c range. River you can probably check jam anything that is a set or worse and just call all your small flushes and jam Jx+flushes. 89xx 45xx/nut low flushes are interesting, if he never bets AAxx on the river and checks back the turn with a lot of medium flushes then you want to be folding or shoving but if he can vbet worse and doenst have many flushes in his range and a bunch of air then call will be better.

re-read HH.

this is geniuinely tough, depends if he thinks we can reach the river with a high flush.

Read it fine the first time?? If we can't reach the river with a high flush we're doing something seriously wrong but yeah you're right it depends what he thinks obviously.

sorry
dumb momeny