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« on: November 02, 2010, 08:51:35 PM »

this is a spot that keeps coming up I've raised the last 3 hands and won all pre flop without showdown.
Do we raise again or fold? as played I raised and got shoved on.
My question say 66,55,44,33 do we play or fold?

PokerStars Game #52020365428: Tournament #327143379, $12+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2010/11/01 20:01:48 WET [2010/11/01 16:01:48 ET]
Table '327143379 1' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: woodiejr (1965 in chips)
Seat 3: friarbags (3390 in chips)
Seat 4: snapsinis (1775 in chips)
Seat 5: SONYSAM488 (1870 in chips)
woodiejr: posts the ante 25
friarbags: posts the ante 25
snapsinis: posts the ante 25
SONYSAM488: posts the ante 25
snapsinis: posts small blind 100
SONYSAM488: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to woodiejr [Two Clubs Two Diamonds]
woodiejr: raises 300 to 500
friarbags: folds
snapsinis: raises 1250 to 1750 and is all-in
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2010, 08:57:48 PM »

not raise/folding a pair with less than 10bbs.
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2010, 08:59:24 PM »

Given we've raised 3 hands in a row are you happy to shove this with 22?
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2010, 09:32:01 PM »

This is a jam pre
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 09:38:53 PM »

Given we've raised 3 hands in a row are you happy to shove this with 22?

Yes.
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2010, 09:55:37 PM »

so you won 400 chips last hand, 300 the hand before from the sb and 200 from the BB. no, scrub that, you must've won at least 300 from the BB as you raised rather than getting walked so at most you had 965 3 hands ago, 1265 2 hands ago and 1565 last hand

did you standard raise from all of these stacks? I hope not
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2010, 11:06:40 PM »

I shoved the last 3 times sorry should of said that instead of raise.
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2010, 11:20:14 PM »

I shoved the last 3 times sorry should of said that instead of raise.

in which case I can find a pass here. we've shoved 3 times in a row and then suddenly 2.5x out of a <10BB stack and someone goes over the top

should've just shoved but as played I don't see that a call's that great
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 05:42:22 PM »

shove pre fold as played your beating nothing and at best flipping

i would rather call with  JTs than 22 in this spot
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 05:45:23 PM »

shove pre fold as played your beating nothing and at best flipping

i would rather call with  JTs than 22 in this spot

NOW I AGREE WITH YOU.

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 12:41:28 PM »

shove pre fold as played your beating nothing and at best flipping

i would rather call with  JTs than 22 in this spot

NOW I AGREE WITH YOU.

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 04:21:56 PM »

Don't know anything much about stt dynamics, but what is the highest stack size where people wouldn't just shove pre here?

Actually that question is a bit tez cos its a function of all the other stack sizes i guess. Better would probably be, what are we doing with 22 in this spot with the exact same stack sizes if the blinds were:
a) 50/100
b) 60/120
c) 75/150
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2010, 04:56:01 PM »

15-20 bigs needed before you can raise fold imho, 12-15 bigs just fold pre, under 12 bigs shove
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2010, 05:23:23 PM »

15-20 bigs needed before you can raise fold imho, 12-15 bigs just fold pre, under 12 bigs shove

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2010, 02:02:38 PM »

2 thinks i hate short handed

tiny pairs and that stack between normal play and short stack play

this falls into both i just fold here onto next hand
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