One hand, several questions???

[SuuPRlim]

Just need to be more clear about our objective from the off set in this hand in my opinion, if you say you're main aim is to ladder + you dont want to get  in preflop vs this player then folding is a better option than 3betting and folding (because that protects our stack - as shamefully nitty as that is)

If you think this a spot where you have to get it in, then think about how you can exploit your opponent at the times he has weaker hands - cos every so often he'll have  and  and ofc he's never folding, so it doesn't matter how we play vs these hands, think about hands that we're in good shape against that he can have and how best to make him go all in with those hands

Either option is viable imo as long as you decide beforehand, then act accordingly - its just a disaster to make a play at this stage of a tourney then half way through stop and make these big decisions, we should have decided before we put a chip into the pot + this applies to £5 freeze outs with £15 ladders and the WSOP main event imo.

[pleno1]

why does not knowing technical terms such as 3bet make you a bad player?

[stato_1]

why does not knowing technical terms such as 3bet make you a bad player?

It doesn't but surely you'd agree there's a fairly massive correlation between the two

[pleno1]

why does not knowing technical terms such as 3bet make you a bad player?

It doesn't but surely you'd agree there's a fairly massive correlation between the two

ofc, but random live pros always get all teh moniez.

[OverTheBorder]

Just need to be more clear about our objective from the off set in this hand in my opinion, if you say you're main aim is to ladder + you dont want to get  in preflop vs this player then folding is a better option than 3betting and folding (because that protects our stack - as shamefully nitty as that is)

If you think this a spot where you have to get it in, then think about how you can exploit your opponent at the times he has weaker hands - cos every so often he'll have  and  and ofc he's never folding, so it doesn't matter how we play vs these hands, think about hands that we're in good shape against that he can have and how best to make him go all in with those hands

Either option is viable imo as long as you decide beforehand, then act accordingly - its just a disaster to make a play at this stage of a tourney then half way through stop and make these big decisions, we should have decided before we put a chip into the pot + this applies to £5 freeze outs with £15 ladders and the WSOP main event imo.

I thank you for your input, both your posts are exactly the reason I posted this.  For sensible thought out answers that I can use to help figure exactly as I thought how I had thought and played this hand badly! a lot more useful than buy a book and how did you get in this tournament in the first place! 

[buzzharvey22]

You also say if u fold and leave yourself with 10bb then u can ladder a couple of spots as you are still in 4th position. well (i know it could be quite hard to do) maybe you should think more along the lines of "if i win this flip then im chip leader, and have an extremely good chance of winning the whole event." IMO this is a much more +ev way to think of it due to the very top heavy pay out structures. The risk is worth the reward,IMO