referees on strike. all scotlandshire league fixtures cancelled next week

[Maxriddles]

Some questions for Celtic fans about "the Establishment" or "SFA old boys club" that has been persecuting your club for decades. 

How many SFA presidents since the end of the second world war have been Celtic men?

How many other prominent members of the SFA have been Celtic men?

In fact are there any Celtic men holding a prominent position within the SFA at the moment?

Find the answers and you will see that Celtic are a prominent part of the establishment that you say is treating Celtic less fairly than other clubs. 

[gatso]

who reffed yesterday's games in the end?

[bhoywonder]

lolol scottish football lolololol

Thread shoulda ended here tbh, about the only post that gets it right.

WP Greeky

Geo

Agree.....fkn hilarious...but also


Extremely embarrassing...

[bhoywonder]

Being the eternal optomist and Celtic fan....I find it incredulous that a professional would jeopordise his standing to make decisions against one team in favour of another...but....


Proffessionals....they ain't.....

In my proffesion there is no hiding place
....


Fuck it up...n u get sacked


Simples

[Rod Paradise]

Some questions for Celtic fans about "the Establishment" or "SFA old boys club" that has been persecuting your club for decades.  

How many SFA presidents since the end of the second world war have been Celtic men?

How many other prominent members of the SFA have been Celtic men?

In fact are there any Celtic men holding a prominent position within the SFA at the moment?

Find the answers and you will see that Celtic are a prominent part of the establishment that you say is treating Celtic less fairly than other clubs.  

Yada yada yada - answer the question you were asked.

Then expand on those in 'the establishment' who you are attempting to use to further your vain attempt to show the lack of bias.

Then explain Jim Farry, who seems to have been posthumously exonerated by the Scottish press even though a court found him guilty of what you say is a figment of our imagination.

Then explain Kevin O'Donnell's career, or that of Mr Murphy, the man the Rangers manager so inexplicably name-checked repeatedly while pointing the 2 decisions he'd made that were percieved to be against Rangers?  How many games has he been involved in since? Bad decisions v Celtic - you referee the next cup final, bad decisions v Rangers - bye bye Timmy.......

Then discuss the vice President of the Referee Committee being a Rangers shareholder.

You come across much the same as the referees & the old school SFA - mucho accusation with little substance as the world falls down around you.

5 6 down more to go..... Peat next?

[Rod Paradise]

lolol scottish football lolololol

Thread shoulda ended here tbh, about the only post that gets it right.

WP Greeky

Geo

Agree.....fkn hilarious...but also


Extremely embarrassing...

We're bad bhoys you know, slag the soldiers so we do.....

[Maxriddles]

Some questions for Celtic fans about "the Establishment" or "SFA old boys club" that has been persecuting your club for decades.  

How many SFA presidents since the end of the second world war have been Celtic men?

How many other prominent members of the SFA have been Celtic men?

In fact are there any Celtic men holding a prominent position within the SFA at the moment?

Find the answers and you will see that Celtic are a prominent part of the establishment that you say is treating Celtic less fairly than other clubs.  

Yada yada yada - answer the question you were asked.

Then expand on those in 'the establishment' who you are attempting to use to further your vain attempt to show the lack of bias.

Then explain Jim Farry, who seems to have been posthumously exonerated by the Scottish press even though a court found him guilty of what you say is a figment of our imagination.

Then explain Kevin O'Donnell's career, or that of Mr Murphy, the man the Rangers manager so inexplicably name-checked repeatedly while pointing the 2 decisions he'd made that were percieved to be against Rangers?  How many games has he been involved in since? Bad decisions v Celtic - you referee the next cup final, bad decisions v Rangers - bye bye Timmy.......

Then discuss the vice President of the Referee Committee being a Rangers shareholder.

You come across much the same as the referees & the old school SFA - mucho accusation with little substance as the world falls down around you.

5 6 down more to go..... Peat next?

Where to start with this little lot.

Lets start with mucho accusation, exactly what accusation have I made? That Celtic have key figures in the SFA and have had many key figures in the SFA and SFL over the years, hardly an accusation more a statement of fact. Unlike the accusations emanating from Parkhead this is fact that can be backed up and proven.

As for your 6 down more to go comment, I am genuinely appalled. I doubt four of those, a secretary, an audio visual technician, a mailroom manager, and an administrative assistant had a lot of clout in the "establishment's conspiracy" against Celtic. Four people losing their jobs for a minor misconduct in forwarding an inappropriate email where a warning should suffice, if they go to a tribunal they should win. They are also really going to struggle to find new jobs after losing their jobs in the circumstances in which they have in these economic times. Massive victory though Rod, glad you are pleased.

There is no doubt the late Jim Farry made a mistake and was found guilty of unnecessarily delaying the registration of Jorge Cadette, that certainly is a fact. He was not found guilty of deliberately disadvantaging Celtic as you seem to suggest. On this particular matter it's my belief is that it was more a demonstration of his arrogance and self importance while chief executive of the SFA than part of a conspiracy. You see we didn't have lot of love for him in the blue half of the OF either.

I won't enter into any debate on Murphy or O'Donnell as I know little about either of them, I didn't even remember their names until you posted this. I knew little of them before or after the decisions you mention which would mean they probably weren't among the top referees we had. I think I recall the decisions you refer to though but I could be wrong, if it's the ones that I am thinking of they were both incorrect calls rather than perceived incorrect calls, but no point bleating about them now.  Walter was wrong in what he said here and I won't defend him for it, to be honest I find it embarrassing and he should have been censured for it.

As you point out quite correctly Rangers too have had a lot of key figures in the SFA and SFL, I didn't claim or suggest they hadn't. It just seems to be forgotten about that Celtic do too and that fact alone makes the conspiracy theory utterly ridiculous as far as I am concerned. Good luck proving it exists though.

[gatso]

who reffed yesterday's games in the end?

anyone?

[Rod Paradise]

I have less than no respect for Lennon, Dr Reid, Peter"Sporting Integrity"Lawell, and anyone else bleating on about conspiracy theories.
 It's pointless for me to post any further on the matter.

With your selective replies & constant chaff to try and cover what's going on at least you got 2 things right Max.

The 'innocents' have possibly been hard done by, as I would because I'd be sacked for the same offense, so I'm not adding my crocodile tears to yours.

Still more to come though - the gun's loaded, but the old saying goes 'never interupt your enemy as he's making a mistake', the current crisis is outing the press, the pen-pushers and all those with an interest in keeping the status quo.....

[Boba Fett]

I have less than no respect for Lennon, Dr Reid, Peter"Sporting Integrity"Lawell, and anyone else bleating on about conspiracy theories.
 It's pointless for me to post any further on the matter.

With your selective replies & constant chaff to try and cover what's going on at least you got 2 things right Max.

Congratulations Max on making the cover-up team.  Im happy for you.  Lets not let the "truth" get out  lol

[Boba Fett]

who reffed yesterday's games in the end?

anyone?

Refs from Israel and Luxembourg.  The Polish refs pulled out when they heard it was Celtic causing all the trouble why the refs were on strike

[Teacake]

Some questions for Celtic fans about "the Establishment" or "SFA old boys club" that has been persecuting your club for decades.  

How many SFA presidents since the end of the second world war have been Celtic men?

How many other prominent members of the SFA have been Celtic men?

In fact are there any Celtic men holding a prominent position within the SFA at the moment?

Find the answers and you will see that Celtic are a prominent part of the establishment that you say is treating Celtic less fairly than other clubs.  

Yada yada yada - answer the question you were asked.

Then expand on those in 'the establishment' who you are attempting to use to further your vain attempt to show the lack of bias.

Then explain Jim Farry, who seems to have been posthumously exonerated by the Scottish press even though a court found him guilty of what you say is a figment of our imagination.

Then explain Kevin O'Donnell's career, or that of Mr Murphy, the man the Rangers manager so inexplicably name-checked repeatedly while pointing the 2 decisions he'd made that were percieved to be against Rangers?  How many games has he been involved in since? Bad decisions v Celtic - you referee the next cup final, bad decisions v Rangers - bye bye Timmy.......

Then discuss the vice President of the Referee Committee being a Rangers shareholder.

You come across much the same as the referees & the old school SFA - mucho accusation with little substance as the world falls down around you.

5 6 down more to go..... Peat next?

As for your 6 down more to go comment, I am genuinely appalled. I doubt four of those, a secretary, an audio visual technician, a mailroom manager, and an administrative assistant had a lot of clout in the "establishment's conspiracy" against Celtic. Four people losing their jobs for a minor misconduct in forwarding an inappropriate email where a warning should suffice, if they go to a tribunal they should win. They are also really going to struggle to find new jobs after losing their jobs in the circumstances in which they have in these economic times. Massive victory though Rod, glad you are pleased.

You've got to love the mockrage 

It might be minor misconduct in the Ayrshire ludges and bowling clubs but its not with any company who has any sense of corporate responsibility not to mention the reputational damage caused if this got out for an organisation attempting to rid Scottish football of sectarianism. They won't go to a tribunal and if they do they won't win if the SFA have followed correct procedure.

This could only end one way for Dallas, he was the architect of his own downfall.

[Rod Paradise]

Loving Celtic's new spokesman on the subject - Paul McBride QC. Let's see them try and ban him/Celtic without making sure everything they do is strictly legal .

Oh, and he's qualified to talk about match officials - he was one.

One serious question though.

Celtic have demanded root & branch reform of the SFA and the disciplinary procedures in particular, now so have the referees, whether there is or isn't bias within the SFA & among SFA's officials, the end result will be a more modern SFA & we can continue on hopefully with a better system. What is so wrong with that?

[Rod Paradise]

who reffed yesterday's games in the end?

anyone?

Refs from Israel and Luxembourg.  The Polish refs pulled out when they heard it was Celtic causing all the trouble why the refs were on strike

So please give me the outrageous quotes against our poor beleagured refs then Boba, Max, anyone....

How about these:

"Referees need to come out after the game and comment and explain their decisions. Refereeing is a big part of the game and people want to see high standards, hear the reasons behind decisions and gain clarification. Human error is part of the game, but it should be in minimal proportion.

"There is no place for a high proportion of human error meaning low standards - it can easily be a cover for bias and match fixing.

"If the Scottish FA is interested in showing there is no bias and minimizing the risk of match fixing the organisation needs to continue working to improve refereeing standards, by implementing the best practices available in the world and being innovative to insure that the Scottish game is not a place for reputation damaging situations.

or

"But then Dougie McDonald conspires to try to give a penalty against us...

"I don't know what goes through Dougie McDonald's mind, permanently.

or

'He lost his composure, stuck his finger in my face and told me to shut up. It wasn't acceptable.

'In all my time in football, no other referee has ever done that. I have lost all respect for him after the way he spoke to me.

'If it happened in the pub on a Saturday night to any of you guys, the guy would have got a punch in the face.'

or

"We had a blatant penalty and he bottled it,

"If it's not a level playing field and, if we don't get the decisions, blatant, important decisions then what is the point of turning up?

"Anybody who is of a fair mind watching that today would see that we had no chance of winning that.

Show me the quotes from Celtic worse than those & you can continue with your 'all Celtic's fault' argument. Celtic's actual comments have been fairly well measured.

[Boba Fett]

Sorry Rod, Im too busy helping to cover up this National conspiracy against Celtic to go googling my life away