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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2011, 03:57:47 PM »

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I think I should have bet the turn, setting up a river shove

Why do you want to bluff?

I've never understood blocker bets really.  Basically a really small bet where most of the time you get called by better and you sometimes induce bluffs from worse?  Whats the aim of blocker bets?
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2011, 04:01:25 PM »

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I think I should have bet the turn, setting up a river shove

Why do you want to bluff?

I've never understood blocker bets really.  Basically a really small bet where most of the time you get called by better and you sometimes induce bluffs from worse?  Whats the aim of blocker bets?

see last post we have resonable showdown value but want to get there as cheap as pos...we prevent the other person dictate the bet size, also to the wiser it looks like the old post oak bluff and can be called by real marginals like ace high
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2011, 04:02:45 PM »

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I don't especially. However the pot is sizeable after the flop and I'd like to win it (given he's not showing too much strength, and is passive in style) rather than checking the thing down and probably (?) being second best at showdown
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2011, 04:04:45 PM »

If you think we are second best a lot if he calls the flop, don't bet the flop
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2011, 04:05:54 PM »

If you think we are second best a lot if he calls the flop, don't bet the flop

eh ?
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2011, 04:28:15 PM »

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I don't especially. However the pot is sizeable after the flop and I'd like to win it (given he's not showing too much strength, and is passive in style) rather than checking the thing down and probably (?) being second best at showdown
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2011, 07:45:16 PM »

I hate blocker bets, they're cool sometimes vs kinda stationy people who can flick in with worse a decent amount

you may as well get a huge NEON sign above ur head saying "IM BET-FOLDING HERE"
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2011, 08:14:14 PM »

I hate blocker bets, they're cool sometimes vs kinda stationy people who can flick in with worse a decent amount

you may as well get a huge NEON sign above ur head saying "IM BET-FOLDING HERE"


Ur quite right a good player would see this as weakness but then you would adjust and turn it into a value bet...however we are going along player specifics ..as a luton g reg i know pretty much how most of them play and blockers work because they would need the immortal nuts to come over the top of you.. also you get alot of them who never give up ak aq and you do get a lot of folds..but as i said we get to showdown in this situation cheaper and get a few folds thrown in for good measure.
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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2011, 08:15:54 PM »

I hate blocker bets, they're cool sometimes vs kinda stationy people who can flick in with worse a decent amount

you may as well get a huge NEON sign above ur head saying "IM BET-FOLDING HERE"


yeah i totally agree, it bleeding obvious - but its ok against 90% of lowish level live players who wouldn't know what bet/fold is, never mind being able to exploit it.

its the kind of play i would only ever make in a local casino donkament vs your standard live donko

just my 2p, i still prefer c/f - betting more than 1 street for value is pretty thin and don't really see the point in turning our hand into a bluff here
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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2011, 09:07:37 PM »

you may as well get a huge NEON sign above ur head saying "IM BET-FOLDING HERE"


Thing is against people that don't even know what bet-folding is its actually a pretty cool way of getting really close to the borders of villains ranges to the point even where he'll raise everything that beats you and calls with everything that you beat which he wouldn't do if you bet bigger
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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2011, 02:40:15 AM »

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I think I should have bet the turn, setting up a river shove

Why do you want to bluff?

I've never understood blocker bets really.  Basically a really small bet where most of the time you get called by better and you sometimes induce bluffs from worse?  Whats the aim of blocker bets?

thats because you understand the game at a very high level rupert. against anyone decent they are pointless- unless you are viewed as bad and attempting to induce.

i agree with coz.




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