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Alverton
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« on: January 05, 2011, 09:21:54 PM » |
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Mid-late stages of a DTD tourney, 800-1600-200 level Average stack- 22bbs You have 16bb's, and   UTG. What do u do? Me and a friend disagreed, so just wanted other opinions. |
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DMorgan
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2011, 09:23:29 PM » |
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Fold but this should be in the beginners questions board imo
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titaniumbean
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2011, 09:37:53 PM » |
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mid - late means there are antes?
fold imo with a table of 5% calling ranges for your shove you could jam.
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gatso
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2011, 09:41:58 PM » |
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I wouldn't have even looked at the second card
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If you get to the yeasty clunge you've gone too far
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2011, 09:50:31 PM » |
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Fold.
Or depending on the how many players and who is in the blinds/stacks/on the table in general etc, this might become a shove.
Fold in general though I think.
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Alverton
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2011, 10:02:44 PM » |
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Ok all the same. I folded, thought it was obvious fold. Then later a friend stubbornly said it was a standard snap shove and wouldn't see any other reasoning.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2011, 10:22:09 PM » |
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Are there antes in play?
If there are, this is damn close. If not insta fold.
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Alverton
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2011, 10:41:20 PM » |
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yeah antes in play,
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gatso
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2011, 10:45:08 PM » |
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yeah antes in play,
meh, that takes us to about 10 bb equivalent. def close as longy says but still happy folding |
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If you get to the yeasty clunge you've gone too far
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2011, 10:49:57 PM » |
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more of a fold than a shove, but shove isnt terribad
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2011, 11:02:27 PM » |
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Fold but this should be in the beginners questions board imo
you'd be surprised how many people ill fold 88 and aq cos you've shoved utg in these comps |
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titaniumbean
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2011, 11:04:21 PM » |
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Fold but this should be in the beginners questions board imo
you'd be surprised how many people ill fold 88 and aq cos you've shoved utg in these comps That's fine our shoving range needs to play better against tighter calling ranges than 33 does though. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2011, 02:32:35 AM » |
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Just had a similar argument with a rele well respected MTT guy about an almost identical situation, only he was UTG+1 and insisted this was a shove.
Im sure if you crunch the figures and assume people are calling too tight then you could prove this was a +chEV shove.
That being said id fold and wouldnt consider anything else in this particular vacuum
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DMorgan
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2011, 03:21:09 AM » |
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If even lildave is folding its DEFINITELY a fold imo
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2011, 03:50:32 AM » |
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Fold but this should be in the beginners questions board imo
lol@ this, followed by disagreement between ppl as to what to do. |
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