Ruling in DTD Grand Prix.

[titaniumbean]

BTW  I called versus MR ANGLE, WE (THE WORLD OF NON SKANK NON ANGLING NICE PEOPLE) VS MR ANGLE.

Mr Angle holds a nine with a nine.

WE hold the  with an 


FIRST CARD 


GTFO YOU SKANK


(fwiw I've never ever acted like that to anyone when i've taken them out or even been in an all in spot, I just cant stand people who think that subtle cheating at showdown or when action is complete is acceptable)

You asked for a count?

You deserve to be angled you slow rolling mofo!!!

much wuv for eviplies. good luck in your next ufc fight sir.

[pokerfan]

Quick 1 while we have ruling specialists itt.

2 all in players show each other their hands while a 3rd player is tanking.

Any/what ruling if the 3rd player objects and calls a td over ?

Not being one who is king of the rules this seems a Super tricky spot. I can't see their hands being dead as they have already acted, with nothing else to be done. . Did this actually happen or is it a what if? if so what happened? I think. If 3rd player folds it goes to showdown. If he calls it goes to showdown. They get a 1 round peno either way. Not sure why either player would want to show each other.

Did happen but tanker changed his mind and folded. Just wondering really.

[stim1986]

Another ruling question...

In the first Grand Prix.

Im in MP, UTG limps as does UTG+1... 2 folds... I look down at a  and a Joker Card. 

I flip my hand face up so the dealer can see, and he calls the floor.

What should be the ruling here as there were two different opinions from TD's.

[George2Loose]

Jokers are wild. Why would u expose your hand?

[millidonk]

Another ruling question...

In the first Grand Prix.

Im in MP, UTG limps as does UTG+1... 2 folds... I look down at a  and a Joker Card. 

I flip my hand face up so the dealer can see, and he calls the floor.

What should be the ruling here as there were two different opinions from TD's.

Haha, fantastic. Have heard of someone being dealt  but never a joker. I would of had to play the hand out for pure comedy value! As George said something along the lines of "Jokers are wild" would go down a treat.

[sovietsong]

Another ruling question...

In the first Grand Prix.

Im in MP, UTG limps as does UTG+1... 2 folds... I look down at a  and a Joker Card. 

I flip my hand face up so the dealer can see, and he calls the floor.

What should be the ruling here as there were two different opinions from TD's.

would have really liked seeing this hand get to show down.  just jam it all in, give them a proper decision imo.

[LB44]

Another ruling question, not that it bothered me at all, just wondering.

40 left in the grand prix, SB has about 350k, bb with a golden chip who stated it was his 1st live tournament has about 180k

SB says im checking it down all the way blind. Dealer thinks he heard BB saying "i'll do the same then". I didnt hear anything.

SB argues nothing in the rules saying he cant check it down, dealer says its collusion, SB says BB didnt agree, he just stated the fact that he would check it.

Flop both check, turn checked and river checked. SB flips up 1 pair I think, dealer says if BB's hand is the nuts then he will have him from whole tournament. 74 was the nuts, BB had 62. Phew.. lol.

[Bongo]

If the BB hasn't seen his cards then surely it doesn't matter if he has the nuts or not?

[AlexMartin]

both angles, depressing and sad that people do this. personally think the table penalty should be longer.

[dik9]

Another ruling question, not that it bothered me at all, just wondering.

40 left in the grand prix, SB has about 350k, bb with a golden chip who stated it was his 1st live tournament has about 180k

SB says im checking it down all the way blind. Dealer thinks he heard BB saying "i'll do the same then". I didnt hear anything.

SB argues nothing in the rules saying he cant check it down, dealer says its collusion, SB says BB didnt agree, he just stated the fact that he would check it.

Flop both check, turn checked and river checked. SB flips up 1 pair I think, dealer says if BB's hand is the nuts then he will have him from whole tournament. 74 was the nuts, BB had 62. Phew.. lol.

WOW which ruling to answer first? I ran the bloody thing and didn't here any of this stuff. Dealers should not be saying a thing except calling for the floor as soon as they believe something is happening or heard anything?

In the above example IF the floor was called they would be either on a serious penalty or disqualified for soft play, i would have to know the exact situation after a consultation with the dealer REGARDLESS OF WHAT CARDS THE BB HAD

[dik9]

Quick 1 while we have ruling specialists itt.

2 all in players show each other their hands while a 3rd player is tanking.

Any/what ruling if the 3rd player objects and calls a td over ?

Hmmm strange one, I cannot say for sure as I would need all the information, but if it was absolutely blatant  (To teach them a lesson in my head I would like to expose both sets of cards and let the tanker decide whether to call or not) In the rules we follow I would have to give them a 3 rounder after the hand. I would like something harsher than this but don't think it warrants disqualification. The more I think about it the more i like exposing both of their hands to the table.

[dik9]

Another ruling question...

In the first Grand Prix.

Im in MP, UTG limps as does UTG+1... 2 folds... I look down at a  and a Joker Card. 

I flip my hand face up so the dealer can see, and he calls the floor.

What should be the ruling here as there were two different opinions from TD's.

 A card discovered faceup in the deck (boxed card) will be treated as a meaningless scrap of paper. A card being treated as a scrap of paper will be replaced by the next card below it in the deck, except when the next card has already been dealt facedown to another player and mixed in with other downcards. In that case, the card that was faceup in the deck will be replaced after all other cards are dealt for that round.


 A joker that appears in a game where it is not used is treated as a scrap of paper. Discovery of a joker does not cause a misdeal. If the joker is discovered before a player acts on his or her hand, it is replaced as in the previous rule. If the player does not call attention to the joker before acting, then the player has a dead hand.

[LB44]

thanks Richard.

[gatso]

Another ruling question...

In the first Grand Prix.

Im in MP, UTG limps as does UTG+1... 2 folds... I look down at a  and a Joker Card. 

I flip my hand face up so the dealer can see, and he calls the floor.

What should be the ruling here as there were two different opinions from TD's.

 A card discovered faceup in the deck (boxed card) will be treated as a meaningless scrap of paper. A card being treated as a scrap of paper will be replaced by the next card below it in the deck, except when the next card has already been dealt facedown to another player and mixed in with other downcards. In that case, the card that was faceup in the deck will be replaced after all other cards are dealt for that round.


 A joker that appears in a game where it is not used is treated as a scrap of paper. Discovery of a joker does not cause a misdeal. If the joker is discovered before a player acts on his or her hand, it is replaced as in the previous rule. If the player does not call attention to the joker before acting, then the player has a dead hand.

but isn't it quite likely that we have a fouled deck here so should treat it slightly different from a boxed card? I'd prefer to stop the game for a sec and have a quick count of the muck, stub, board and hole cards just to check we've got 53 before continuing with the hand

[gatso]

Quick 1 while we have ruling specialists itt.

2 all in players show each other their hands while a 3rd player is tanking.

Any/what ruling if the 3rd player objects and calls a td over ?

Hmmm strange one, I cannot say for sure as I would need all the information, but if it was absolutely blatant  (To teach them a lesson in my head I would like to expose both sets of cards and let the tanker decide whether to call or not) In the rules we follow I would have to give them a 3 rounder after the hand. I would like something harsher than this but don't think it warrants disqualification. The more I think about it the more i like exposing both of their hands to the table.

this I like. the cards are exposed and exposed cards should be tabled