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« on: January 27, 2011, 07:36:13 AM »

Live 1/2. VDecent reg Julian Thew opens early for 7, awful reg Neil Giblin flats, i flat the button playing £300 with  two spades. Blinds fold. 

, Julian cbets £10, Neil calls, hero makes it £45, Julian folds, Neil calls.
 
three diamonds on the turn, Neil checks. Thought this was a bad call to bet again so I checked.
 
Two Diamonds on the river. Neil bets £55. Hero? Fold? Shove? Call? How about turn line?

 
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 08:30:18 AM »

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jesus christ dont post this

i'd probably just call the flop as played its fine fold the river you arent gonna get him to fold a full house and if hes a bad reg he might not even fold pairs.  problem when flush draws miss is bad players always put you on it.  you very rarely have the best hand on river also
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 08:40:42 AM »

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jesus christ dont post this

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 08:41:53 AM »

lol yeh just realised after it might be is he jakally? i played with him a fair bit still would play hand the same we repping very little if we raise the river
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2011, 09:03:21 AM »

lol yeh just realised after it might be is he jakally? i played with him a fair bit still would play hand the same we repping very little if we raise the river

yeh he is. i thought he had to be vbetting a 77-99sort of range. And if I raise I'm only repping quads tbh. Thats the only value hand I play that way. Neil v unlikely to flat a Julian EP open with a 4 in his hand. He knows I'm unlikely to have a 4 either, and I never raise 66-TT on the flop either and 3bet all large pairs pre. So iuno what he puts me on at any point. On the flop I either have 33, 44 or the nut flush draw, (sometimes A4ss  or 45ss I suppose) so imo I don't like his call on the flop oop. Dunno why he'd bet 77-99 on the river either given my perceived range. Confused.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 04:55:44 PM »

was your £300 covered in both spots? did you have both of them covered?

I don't see how that's not a good turn to fire on.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 05:19:49 PM »

was your £300 covered in both spots? did you have both of them covered?

I don't see how that's not a good turn to fire on.

yh i agree, Im not sure i would nessercarily raise the flop, but if i did Od almost defo bet this turn
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 05:23:40 PM »

lol yeh just realised after it might be is he jakally? i've owned his soul consistently over the last 2 weeks  but still would play hand the same we repping very little if we raise the river

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2011, 05:27:34 PM »

raise/peel flop depending on game flow, check turn fold river.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 05:30:48 PM »

actually I like raising the flop thinking about it

we can get it in vs Julian and have 12-15 clean outs almost always and might even fold out some mid pairs
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 12:35:16 PM »

I folded and Neil showed  . Sighhhhhhhh I don't know whether I like my fold on the river. I don't know what he puts me on. If he puts me on a draw, then he'd check any hand with showdown (A high, 66-TT), If he was value betting then he must have an idea of worse hands that I'll call with. But I never have 55-TT here so my range is either a house or a missed draw. So he wouldn't bet med pairs here, so his bet makes no sense so I should probs have call it off...?
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 02:30:22 PM »

yh, when lines make no sense/people rep ridic thin value i always want to call, but more often than not i'm wrong and they have the ridic thin value they're repping
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 03:11:31 PM »

Flat the flop or raise the flop and empty the clip.
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2011, 04:33:59 PM »

what Pat said, I'm prob betting turn too.

Niel Giblin of team Sky made a good river bet imo.
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 04:35:51 PM »

what Pat said, I'm prob betting turn too.

Niel Giblin of team Sky made a good river bet imo.

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