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« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2011, 09:19:15 AM »

George and Fugly get yourselves over to Rileys Nottingham not Leicesteurrrggghh

Me and Ralph will come and beat you

First money match is on!

Riley's Nottingham is a dive pal lol. The roll on the tables there is crazy. Let alone tables being poorly maintained. lol Smiley

Absoulute dive but at least its not in Leicester  Wink

If a few people were interested I would be tempted to drive over for a few games.
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« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2011, 09:53:25 AM »

Here is the plan/structure I want to have to make this as successful as possible. If you have any suggestions following this please have a say.

First off, I will set up two bank accounts separate from my living expenses – One for my half of the stake and another for your staking money. All money goes in there, and what I will do on a weekly or fortnightly basis is send account details to all the backers, so you can see what money has gone in (winnings) and out (stakes). By keeping accounts separate, it is easier to administrate and makes things simple. It just means carrying two cards around with me to withdraw equal amounts but that’s no hardship.

At the moment that means there’d be two accounts starting with £500 in each.

Any game won results in me paying Stakeback + 50% so for example if playing a match for £500, as you have 50% of the stake at £250 then you get that back plus £125 (50%) on top. If I lose, then that money has gone.

I do not intend to just turn up to a Rileys or Club 147 or wherever just hoping to get a game. If someone comes up and challenges me though, then I have that option to accept their challenge but only if I’m comfortable it’s a game I can win. I won’t be playing complete strangers who play like total crap then approach me, as that could be a hustle.

As I am putting my own money on the line as well, I will not be putting it all on one game. Even against a very bad player anything can still happen. That isn’t negative, it’s actually a good thing because if arrogance takes over then I will lose. I do not want to lose mine or your money.

I don’t really have any specific rule set for playing maximum %age in any one game, but as a general rule I will never go over 25%. If I intend to go over 25% of the roll I will try to get to one of you guys to see what you think. It would be a good idea if you have a ‘head’ of the group I can contact to get the green light. I don’t want to set money alight. I want to act with total integrity and honesty.

There is a designated Action Night in Wakefield on Thursdays where virtually every table has games on for money. This can be anything from £10 up to £200 depending on the players. This is the best night if I get a car full to try and make ‘big bucks’ in one night. I have a few challenges for an event called ‘Money Match TV’ ran at Vegas Bar for www.cuesport.tv too. One guy (Brendan Leigh) wants to play me for £500 a man, the other (Barry Briggs) will be £500 a man minimum but could possibly scrape more judging on other games he’s played.

I will keep a log book with all the money games played, dates, names, scores, amount played for etc. On a weekly basis I will email all backers with the results. I am objective, so I can tell you how I played. Where possible I’ll try to get a recording of my games, but you can understand some guys don’t want to end up on youtube randomly so might not always be possible? Smiley

For any small games up to £50 I don’t really see any need to consult you guys on my opponents because it’s going to be guys’ whose speed I already know. However any amount over that I will consult all of you and give you what information I can on the player. I will not be counting national rankings in my assessment of a game, because they mean nothing. Too many good players on tour, and if you play only 1 or 2 events a year and lose to say Ben Finch or Shane Appleton then you’re gonna be rock bottom, but may actually be a great player. I have enough contacts in the game to help me find out about somebody’s speed.

One thing that needs considering by you guys, is how regularly you’d like the payments. To start off with it’s going to be miniscule amounts if you’re splitting between 4. I can either pay all of you separately through bank transfers, or if you want to set up a group account (if that’s easy) then can pay to that and you guys work out the winnings between yourselves. Any money that goes back into your bank account can be used for staking until you all decide otherwise.

To confirm who is in on the action so far:-

The Camel - £125
GreekStein - £125
Dubai - £125 (please confirm)
ACE2M - £125
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« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2011, 10:20:24 AM »

George and Fugly get yourselves over to Rileys Nottingham not Leicesteurrrggghh

Me and Ralph will come and beat you

First money match is on!

Riley's Nottingham is a dive pal lol. The roll on the tables there is crazy. Let alone tables being poorly maintained. lol Smiley

You're right, crap balls, crap tables, it's why I never play in Nottingham anymore.

Yes Stu, let's drive over there and whoop them and then George can take us somewhere nice for a ruby.
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« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2011, 10:31:31 AM »

George and Fugly get yourselves over to Rileys Nottingham not Leicesteurrrggghh

Me and Ralph will come and beat you

First money match is on!

Riley's Nottingham is a dive pal lol. The roll on the tables there is crazy. Let alone tables being poorly maintained. lol Smiley

You're right, crap balls, crap tables, it's why I never play in Nottingham anymore.

Yes Stu, let's drive over there and lose to them and then George can take us somewhere nice for a ruby.

Sounds like a plan Smiley
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« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2011, 10:51:40 AM »

George and Fugly get yourselves over to Rileys Nottingham not Leicesteurrrggghh

Me and Ralph will come and beat you

First money match is on!

Riley's Nottingham is a dive pal lol. The roll on the tables there is crazy. Let alone tables being poorly maintained. lol Smiley

You're right, crap balls, crap tables, it's why I never play in Nottingham anymore.

Yes Stu, let's drive over there and lose to them and then George can take us somewhere nice for a ruby.

Sounds like a plan Smiley

Ruby! How could I say no.  Cheesy
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« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2011, 11:00:22 AM »

George and Fugly get yourselves over to Rileys Nottingham not Leicesteurrrggghh

Me and Ralph will come and beat you

First money match is on!

Riley's Nottingham is a dive pal lol. The roll on the tables there is crazy. Let alone tables being poorly maintained. lol Smiley

You're right, crap balls, crap tables, it's why I never play in Nottingham anymore.

Yes Stu, let's drive over there and lose to them and then George can take us somewhere nice for a ruby.

Sounds like a plan Smiley

Ruby! How could I say no.  Cheesy

Count me in too.  I'll be the official observer - like Norris McWhirter (he loved a good curry too).
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« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2011, 11:31:14 AM »

How about going over one afternoon next week, can you guys manage that?

Tuesday or Wednesday would be fine for me.
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« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2011, 11:53:10 AM »

How about going over one afternoon next week, can you guys manage that?

Tuesday or Wednesday would be fine for me.

Tues possible
Weds nope
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« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2011, 12:08:36 PM »

How about going over one afternoon next week, can you guys manage that?

Tuesday or Wednesday would be fine for me.

Tues possible
Weds nope

How's Tuesday for you Fugly, George, Kinboshi?
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« Reply #69 on: January 28, 2011, 12:26:59 PM »

How about going over one afternoon next week, can you guys manage that?

Tuesday or Wednesday would be fine for me.

Tues possible
Weds nope

How's Tuesday for you Fugly, George, Kinboshi?

Tuesday sounds good to me.

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« Reply #70 on: January 28, 2011, 02:09:32 PM »

Vegaslover, it was only when I played Daz that I was trembling. He is my favourite player so to play him was an unusual experience. As soon as I got a couple of racks early I was fine.

Let me please say I know beating Daz off +6 means nothing. Even beating him off +1 doesn't count because his aim is to just level the match. Can't think of winning until he has done so. But it's just to give people an idea that against the players who I look up to, I am not fazed and I can play fairly decently. In the money games I just have a massive rush of adrenaline in first few racks, then calm it down and get into stroke but no wobbly knees. Even a bout of sickness didn't stop me from playing well in a match.

I wasn't looking for stakes in tournaments, but the expense for the GB9 Tour is massive (partly why I'm not bothering as no value for money). Fees for the Challenge Tour are £595 for 4 events, plus £78 hotels, and rip off prices for food and travel. Pro Division I think is a lot higher around £750-£800 then same exe's on top.

If I'm playing a one off money match for say £250 and above - which a few challenges have been issued to me  -  then I'm spending probably £30 on fuel and drinks to the driver, and money for a hotel or finding someone I know to stay with. The expenses aren't cheap but much better than an overnight tournament and the reward is instant and a lot higher.

Theres a bloke I've played approximately 15 times who has never beat me, and every time says 'one day I'll beat you, I got your number'. He wants to play me for £500 a man but wants a race to 100 which is stupid. But there are enough games like that going around in Leicester, and if Dubai has some rich and stupid mates then even better!
Friggin hell that tour has got expensive. Hope it's a lot better managed then it used to be, though i doubt it is.
Looks like they taken a leaf out of harwoods book.
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« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2011, 03:17:21 PM »

Hi Baz

Good to see you theres a few members intrested in staking you. Theres two 17 year old lads that would be intrested to play for £500 if you were intrested. The match could be organized to be played at andy appletons venue, vegas bar, which is in wakefield,  and im sure andy could arrange it to be on cue sport tv for your backers to watch.

PM me if your intrested.
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« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2011, 03:44:05 PM »

This sounds fun.  I'll chuck a bit in if looking to get the roll up to a grand.
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« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2011, 04:09:39 PM »

Hi Baz

Good to see you theres a few members intrested in staking you. Theres two 17 year old lads that would be intrested to play for £500 if you were intrested. The match could be organized to be played at andy appletons venue, vegas bar, which is in wakefield,  and im sure andy could arrange it to be on cue sport tv for your backers to watch.

PM me if your intrested.

Who are the guys?

If they're fish wanting to gamble on pool, ty.

If not, I'll fill you in later on my thoughts.
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« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2011, 05:02:16 PM »

Mark Lunn and Liam Waterworth. Both from Leeds area. Both can hold a cue as i imagine anyone who plays for £500 can. Conversation came about money matches and pool and i rememberd this thread. I explained to both theres a guy from leicster called baz asking for stakes for pool on a poker forum asked them if they would be intrested if a game could be arranged, both said yes, and here i am now asking if there would be any intrest from Baz wanting to play. There both young, LIams played a few matches between £100- 300, Mark hasnt played his 1st money match yet. Let us know your thoughts and if theres any more info you want.
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