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« on: February 03, 2011, 03:22:39 PM »

apat team event
blinds 50/100

i have about 16k
villain about 10k

villains not shown much not played much he has won a few small pots nothing major at this point

villiam opens from MP too 300
hero calls in bb with KQ

flop QJ4 rainbow

i dont like leading here as if he raises i still no idea where i am, i preferr to c/r and if he 3bets then i know i am in trouble

it goes check check

6 on turn putting a diamond draw out there and 2nd straight draw so i lead for 500 raised to 1500 and i flat

q on river missing the flush draw

NOW WHAT?

i checked he bet 2k i called

i have heard bet fold, check call, bet call and bet jam
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 03:28:47 PM »

You played it fine.

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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 05:25:42 PM »

You played it fine.



this, no problem with any of it.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 05:37:21 PM »

yep u played it fine, he have JJ?
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 05:41:13 PM »

You've controlled the pot as well as you could playing OOP.  Can't think of many different ways of playing it.

Does the villain know you're a donk?
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 06:11:12 PM »

he have JJ?

yh i thoguht this
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 06:27:33 PM »

Does the villain know you're a donk?

i make sure everyone knows that before the start of the 2nd hand


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a few people on the night said it was a bet fold river, but i didnt like the dea of bet folding only hands i am getting value from are KK,AA and AJ and i dont think AA or KK check flop
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 06:33:53 PM »

Does the villain know you're a donk?

i make sure everyone knows that before the start of the 2nd hand


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a few people on the night said it was a bet fold river, but i didnt like the dea of bet folding only hands i am getting value from are KK,AA and AJ and i dont think AA or KK check flop

agreed

and fuck your life its SO TILTING that he turns it sjhfjkdhfhjdgdjhjkdjklhfjkhdjkhsdhjsdhjdfhjf
and a nice river for you to lock the pay off in, sigh
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 07:11:22 PM »

Bet/folding is a line a player must be able to make in certain situations to get full value, this however is not one of them situations (imo)

you're hand has strength, and is perfect for bluff catcher as both draws missed. chk calling allows you to not put urself in a horrible spot if he reraises you, and it allows airballs to pay you off another streets value.

If he is bluff raising the turn, then why wud u lead the river with the intention of folding, as he maybe bluff raising again or even overvaluing a hand you beat (unlikely yes, but possible).

Folding turn isn't horrid either fwiw (perhaps a little results orientated, but wud he really raise a draw on the turn?)
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 08:28:02 PM »

i preferr to c/r and if he 3bets then i know i am in trouble

dislike this thought process

would most likely check call flop, could c/r for value vs some but wouldn't be c/r to "find out where i am"
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 11:17:19 PM »

i preferr to c/r and if he 3bets then i know i am in trouble

dislike this thought process

would most likely check call flop, could c/r for value vs some but wouldn't be c/r to "find out where i am"

i would be checking raising for value but if he 3bets i think its a hand i can fold
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 11:18:18 PM »

oh i dont like checking calling the flop cause i could be calling 3 barrells oop
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 11:24:15 PM »

oh i dont like checking calling the flop cause i could be calling 3 barrells oop
Folding then pre innit.
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 11:29:50 PM »

nah i dont like being that passive in a pot with top pair i want to get some chips in but i dont want to lose my house
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 11:48:49 PM »

one of those spots where your hand kinda lies on the borderline of his value range/bluff and semi-bluff range

you don't wanna inflate the pot vs his value range as most of the time he'll be ahead, and you dont wanna c/r fold vs his semi-bluffs + you want him to keep barreling his bluffs.

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