Cash Game Question / Ruling

[SuuPRlim]

ALSO....

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BETTING LINE

I agree with every part of that apart from the bit about there being no betting line

 

as far as im aware and how Ive seen it all over the country the line that is on some tables is irrelevant and i could keep my chips over the line if i wanted to doesnt make them in the pot.

this isnt the case in america afaik....

[Cf]

I much prefer tables without betting lines. They cause more issues than they solve. Not entirely sure what issue they supposedly solve is though.

[gatso]

Agree that betting line is totally unnecessary but i've seen it enforced in a number of places in the uk

[doogan]

if i remeber correctly, in grosvenors. their in house rules make this a fold as the bloke has folded face down over the line.

[TommyD]

I've always been told and read that the board is part of the muck, and if the hand hits it, it's dead.  Seriously must have read this in a dozen places or so.

[poonjoe]

This reminds me of the Roland DeWolfe/Reinkemeier hand, where it was highlighted that the board/burn cards can be regarded as part of the muck.

lol@ the pit boss's 'ruling' that 'he has a flush so he wins'

OP we will look after you better at The Fox, lots of 1/1 games.

A good dealer will bring a folded hand into the muck, announcing 'fold' as he does so, perhaps giving the player a short moment to call time before the hand is made irretrievable.

This practice will avoid these sort of situations, where a player has obviously folded but then gets a chance to retrieve his hand.

It seems the Grosvenor rules make the situation even clearer, by making the betting line a 'folding line' too, so I can understand why you were upset about this ruling. We're not playing Blackjack here, its up to the player to read his own hand (unless his hand is tabled).

[Cf]

WTF do you mean you'll look after players better? Ruling in op was 100% correct. You say you'd give a few secs to retrieve the hand and that's exactly what happened.

Don't see how anyone can think the ruling was wrong. Ok, people could use this method to pull an angle and get to see opponents cards. Risky, hand could be mucked. But that's a separate problem we can deal with as and when required. But the vast majority of the times this is a genuine mistake. And looking at hands in op it's easy to see why this mistake was made.

The simple fact of the matter is that at come showdown op had the worst hand. He should therefore not be winning this pot.

[DungBeetle]

I'm assuming he means that at the Fox if you ask for a ruling you won't get some guy come over and confess he knows nothing about poker before delivering the verdict?

[Cf]

I'm assuming he means that at the Fox if you ask for a ruling you won't get some guy come over and confess he knows nothing about poker before delivering the verdict?

Got the impression he thought the ruling was wrong by saying:

lol@ the pit boss's 'ruling' that 'he has a flush so he wins'

OP we will look after you better at The Fox, lots of 1/1 games.

[poonjoe]

I'm assuming he means that at the Fox if you ask for a ruling you won't get some guy come over and confess he knows nothing about poker before delivering the verdict?