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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2011, 06:01:28 PM »

in this specific spot 3b/f

3b to 4k and fold to a shove?

initially, to 1125.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 06:17:58 PM »

Played fine, now shove.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2011, 06:24:45 PM »

It's uncomfortable, but I think it's a shove. It's definitely not 3b/fold.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2011, 06:29:40 PM »

It's uncomfortable, but I think it's a shove. It's definitely not 3b/fold.

I would deffo 3 bet fold but that's with reads.

Flatting pre is fine but now we are arrrrr eeeeeen
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2011, 06:45:45 PM »

I like the play as well. Not usual for bb to be out of line here but meh he just flatted flop and c/r A-high board holding a 5. This alone means you can't narrow his range to KK/AA. You've done half your stack and this very villain has shown you a bluff so the shove can look tilty from an underrepped hand and maybe can get business from worse. If you get it in vs a pair then seems like a decent coup anyway considering.
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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2011, 06:53:48 PM »

I like it. Run better mate
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2011, 06:58:14 PM »

I 4 bet to 4400. BB tank folded before Dan set me in with Jacks. BB said he folded AK (great) but then I flopped a king. YAY!

The turn was a jack. Booooooooo

Generally pre antes I dont like 3 betting pairs/AK/AQ. Just air and the top of my range. Remember this when we are next at the tables

Thx for the input
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2011, 07:12:04 PM »

in this specific spot 3b/f

this has got to be the worst option surely?

played fine although id probably 3bet the original open. I doubt bb ever squeeze folds AQ or even AJ given your line if he has a pulse.
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2011, 07:17:05 PM »

in this specific spot 3b/f

this has got to be the worst option surely?

played fine although id probably 3bet the original open. I doubt bb ever squeeze folds AQ or even AJ given your line if he has a pulse.


back4raise folding would be horrible obviously, 3bfolding pre is best I think, as we are never getting 4b bluffed, and he will peel a whole range of stuff oop that we can have fun against.
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2011, 07:18:41 PM »

the shove can look tilty from an underrepped hand and maybe can get business from worse. If you get it in vs a pair then seems like a decent coup anyway considering.

I dont think a shove here can EVER be for value, the jam looks RIDICULOUSLY strong imo so I'd be jamming to hopefully fold out pairs up to TT(maybe JJ) and AK. No1 is calling AQ and obvs QQ+ arent folding.

Im not sure why we'd 4bet fold when we can jam with more FE.

Honestly prefer a peel as played
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2011, 08:01:38 PM »

in this specific spot 3b/f

this has got to be the worst option surely?

played fine although id probably 3bet the original open. I doubt bb ever squeeze folds AQ or even AJ given your line if he has a pulse.

If your 3bet/folding AK why not just call pre as george did, turning AK into a bluff is odd.
back4raise folding would be horrible obviously, 3bfolding pre is best I think, as we are never getting 4b bluffed, and he will peel a whole range of stuff oop that we can have fun against.
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2011, 08:06:44 PM »

meh i dont really want to fold and i dont think a jam or 4b/something is profitable... call or fold IMO!

i'd def 3 bet pre tho so much shit they gonna peel you with
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2011, 08:15:38 PM »

call or fold IMO!

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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2011, 08:19:22 PM »

I really did think about folding- I dont like peeling for such a big % if my stack when it may even be 4 way with button to act. As it happens would have worked out pretty perfect but obv not trying to be results orientated
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2011, 08:34:25 PM »

I really did think about folding- I dont like peeling for such a big % if my stack when it may even be 4 way with button to act. As it happens would have worked out pretty perfect but obv not trying to be results orientated

only 1/8th of your chips you nit :p
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