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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2011, 04:11:15 PM »

am bit scared im getting level 2'd here but just in case it wasnt obvious clearly shoving or calling here is fucking horrendous.  calling is the worst option if ur gonna do some more off when u hit something, but shoving is probs like a -3bb+ play

Therefore it should be

folding >>>>>>>> shoving>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>calling
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2011, 04:22:37 PM »

Which means I was right

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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2011, 04:36:38 PM »

Which means I was right

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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2011, 04:59:40 PM »

Thanks all.
I did call and totally missed. Just wasn't keen on coming back as the short stack on the next day so was pretty pathetically desparate.

As it happens I did come back for day 2 and managed to grind for 2 hours, virtually card dead until AK<JJ closely followed by my bowl of rice KTs into JJ again.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2011, 05:27:11 PM »

If you flat and the flop comes 923 what do you do?
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2011, 05:39:51 PM »

If you flat and the flop comes 923 what do you do?

your stack off
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2011, 05:41:47 PM »

Cheers mr elder, I was asking op though.

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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2011, 05:45:46 PM »

Probs stack off.
If it was that flop it would have paid off. Lol
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2011, 06:24:05 PM »

Calling preflop is a huge mistake just because of how badly our hand plays vs virtually anything. What's that? We need some graphs to demonstrate this? Well ok then as you asked :p




I kinda picked villain hands at random but you get the drift we're flopping good equity hardly ever vs anything. we actually flop very little quite a bit and when we stack off then its a pricey mistake (the 952 example is a good one)

Jamming however, we're jamming 31,200 to win 13,800? I imagine we'll have somewhere between 15-30% vs a decent calling range so needs to get through like 65%ish of the time to show us some profit. (not done the maths properly) but I can see that being about right

Still prefer folding though, wait till we have better equity when we're called.


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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2011, 11:59:06 AM »

Fold.  You said we have 95o right?
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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2011, 04:12:02 PM »

Fold.  You said we have 95o right?

sums it up in 7 words and no graphs needed

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