Would you have played this differently?

[mikkyT]

First 15 mins of Virgin $10 4pm tourney....

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Hand #164558917  at table: Texas Holdem
Started: Fri Dec 30 16:12:03 2005

seajay is at seat 1 with 1470.00
Hallibud1 is at seat 2 with 2800.00
ace andy 1 is at seat 3 with 1940.00
rivergott is at seat 4 with 2420.00
pokas=n1 is at seat 5 with 1220.00
habi6 is at seat 6 with 1370.00
igroznyj is at seat 7 with 1580.00
cenkyb is at seat 8 with 1180.00
mikkyT2005 is at seat 9 with 1440.00
themob34 is at seat 10 with 1970.00

Hallibud1 posts the large blind 20.00
seajay posts the small blind 10.00

seajay: --, --
Hallibud1: --, --
ace andy 1: --, --
rivergott: --, --
pokas=n1: --, --
habi6: --, --
igroznyj: --, --
cenkyb: --, --
mikkyT2005: ,
themob34: --, --

Pre-flop:

ace andy 1: Fold
rivergott: Call 20.00
pokas=n1: Call 20.00
habi6: Call 20.00
igroznyj: Call 20.00
cenkyb: Call 20.00
mikkyT2005: Raise  100.00
themob34: Call 100.00
seajay: Fold
Hallibud1: Raise  240.00
rivergott: Call 240.00
pokas=n1: Fold
habi6: Call 240.00
igroznyj: Fold
cenkyb: Fold
mikkyT2005: All in
themob34: Fold
Hallibud1: Call 1440.00
rivergott: Fold
habi6: All in

Showdown:

Hallibud1 shows: , (high card, King)
habi6 shows: , (high card, Queen)
mikkyT2005 shows: , (a pair of Kings)

Flop (Board: , , ):


Turn (Board: , , , ):


River (Board: , , , , ):

Hallibud1 shows: , (ace high straight)

Sidepot 2:
 Hallibud1 wins the pot of 140 with ace high straight


Mainpot:
 Hallibud1 wins the pot of 4520 with ace high straight

(0.00 rake were taken for this hand)

[Nem]

No

[thetank]

lmao, what were you just telling newmanseye on the other thread?

[sharpy]

  No I would have done the same.....What the hell were those two muppets doing calling with crap anyway

[mikkyT]

lmao, what were you just telling newmanseye on the other thread?

I wanted other opinions. The fish with K10 is now tournament chip leader, he's jsut done the same thing again. My bet is he will be out soon (one can but hope). Not playing until 5pm now as I feel tilty.

[thetank]

I wanted other opinions.

I would have flat called the kings and folded unless I made trips on the flop.

thwack

Not playing until 5pm now as I feel tilty.

Good man, hard thing to do sometimes.

[mikkyT]

I wanted other opinions.

I would have flat called the kings and folded unless I made trips on the flop.

No you wouldn't. Pre flop is not a time to be flat calling with 7 limpers all limping for 240.

[thetank]

Ok, without being facetious, I would have made the initial raise bigger than 100. I want my Kings all-in against one opponent in a tournament.

There's 5 limpers in front of you, I'd make it 8/9 times BB to play.

[thetank]

I would have flat called the kings and folded unless I made trips on the flop.

Just to be clear, I was joking. Dang written word. My point is you got it all-in with the best of it, can't hope for much more than that.

[mikkyT]

Thought you where jokin, just had to make sure.

Okay, "8/9 times BB" is commited to memory. Cheers tank.

[thetank]

Not always, just with that many limpers, it seems necessary to put in a big raise. As I say, you're shooting for the ideal tournament scenario of being all-in pre-flop against one opponent with your KK. (Ideal so long as they've not got AA)

[Nem]

ALLLLLLLLLLL IN MIKKY

[mikkyT]

Only if my name was Billy.

Anyway, I went all in second time around when the bet was 200 and they still all called

[12barblues]

In my experience the players on Virgin, at the lower stakes at least, will call with almost anything for up to 10/15% of their stack in the early stages of STT's and MTT's.

If you want to gamble, go ahead and raise to 4 or 5 times the BB. If you  want only one or two callers, the raise needs to be 10 x BB! Maybe even more with all those limpers in front of you.

Bizarre, but true in my experience.

I've made a standard a raise with JJ and had seven callers, i.e. everyone who hadn't already folded. In another instance, I was in the BB for the first hand of the tournament with AK and had nine (!) limpers before I acted. My all in was called in three places.

You were lucky someone re-raised to enable you to go all in. Otherwise you would have had 8 callers!

[mikkyT]

I was tooing and froing between a $30 STT where nobody was calling anything above a 4x BB raise, hence the first small raise