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« on: February 27, 2011, 05:11:24 AM »

Playing in a live cash game.

Player A raises UTG to £5, Player B calls, Player C raises to £15, Player D cold calls and then Player A raises to £65.

Player B folds and Player C calls all in (£65) player D now decides to call too. (There is no side pot)

Flop

  Player D jams £75 into the dry sidepot. Player A calls.

The turn and river go  three diamonds and  two spades respectively and Player D mucks.


Player C now shows KK in an attempt to win the "main pot"

What is Player A's options?

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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 05:17:12 AM »

a)Tip the dealer
b) Don't tip the dealer

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 05:18:44 AM »

player A takes side pot, then shows if he wants part of the main pot or mucks and allows c to take main pot

but i would imagine that someone will ask to see his and player d cards to insure there is nothing fishy going on
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 05:27:30 AM »

player A takes side pot, then shows if he wants part of the main pot or mucks and allows c to take main pot

but i would imagine that someone will ask to see his and player d cards to insure there is nothing fishy going on

It depends on the venue, but this is spot on for Gala, which is where I imagine Pleno was playing. In DTD however, even though player D has mucked, player A would still have to show his cards to claim the side pot.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2011, 07:13:25 AM »

A) Lager
B) Guinness
C) Wine
D) Brandy
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2011, 10:46:40 AM »

Option 1 - flip your cards and claim the side pot

Option 2 - flip your cards and claim the side pot and the main pot

Option 3 - muck your cards and start a fight
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2011, 03:11:41 PM »

Player D mucks? As in auto mucks on the river? WTF?

A has won the side pot, no doubt and, like Iron said, can turn over to claim the main or muck for the main.

very strange though
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2011, 03:31:30 PM »

yeah I agree, obv rules differ for different places but Id say A gets the sidepot and can then muck if he cant beat KK for the main pot.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2011, 03:34:20 PM »

In the casinos where you "have to show to win" what happens if player A decides to muck after player D has mucked? What happens to the side pot?
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2011, 03:39:24 PM »

In the casinos where you "have to show to win" what happens if player A decides to muck after player D has mucked? What happens to the side pot?


Split between the two of them.
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2011, 03:52:31 PM »

In the casinos where you "have to show to win" what happens if player A decides to muck after player D has mucked? What happens to the side pot?


Split between the two of them.


Really? If both players muck on the river then is that really what happens? Never heard of it happening before so don't know the rule but sounds odd.
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2011, 03:53:30 PM »



What is Player A's options?



he sits there and waits for the dealer to do something.

(The dealer should ask him to turn over his cards and award him the side pot and presumably muck his hand when it loses to the KK)
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2011, 03:54:29 PM »

In the casinos where you "have to show to win" what happens if player A decides to muck after player D has mucked? What happens to the side pot?


Split between the two of them.


Really? If both players muck on the river then is that really what happens? Never heard of it happening before so don't know the rule but sounds odd.

Nearly happened @ DTD once... so asked what the ruling would have been.
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2011, 04:24:47 PM »

Clarify what you mean by "player D mucks". Dealer should hold on to player Ds cards until player A shows his hand.

If Ds hand is in the muck (which it shouldn't be) then A can have it without showing as far as I'm concerned as he's the only player eligble for that pot with a hand. But it shouldn't come to this with proper dealing.
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2011, 04:26:06 PM »

In the casinos where you "have to show to win" what happens if player A decides to muck after player D has mucked? What happens to the side pot?


Split between the two of them.


Really? If both players muck on the river then is that really what happens? Never heard of it happening before so don't know the rule but sounds odd.

This would be the worst ruling in the history of poker. Well, perhaps not the worst. But it'd be up there. Player A gets the pot as he's the last person with a live hand.
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