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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2011, 11:57:26 AM » |
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Check Call for me..
Any sized bet? Yes, if he shoves I call that as well TBH just because it would tilt me too much not to and because he can't really take us for QQ. I reckon that if I bet and he comes over the top the chances of him having AK are larger than if I check it to him and he bets/shoves. Giving the fact that he wont expect me to fold after he checks the turn (he thinks I'm a hero) what hands do you expect him to bet with on the river, giving the fact he 100% bets JJ/1010/KK/AA on turn. Not saying it's not a bastard of a spot but don't see why he would 100% bet JJ/1010/KK/AA on the turn (Though I would). Can't narrow his range down to AK only yet IMO but you could do that if he shoves when you lead out on the river. I can't bring myself to check fold this and therefore reckon I'll call almost any size bet. Especially as you said he's a good player so he should never shove £500 into a £275 pot when he has the straight. |
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2011, 10:07:43 PM » |
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I would never ever check this river. EVER.
would rather jam river than chk
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2011, 11:13:56 PM » |
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I would never ever check this river. EVER.
would rather jam river than chk
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2011, 11:53:07 PM » |
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I would never ever check this river. EVER.
would rather jam river than chk
Reasons please Lilddddddd |
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2011, 12:59:08 AM » |
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I really like bet/fold here, ppl who snap check-back turn then raise river are not going to be bluffing vs your calling a 4bet & a flop bet. If anyone thinks they can bluff-shove me off hands that are mostly ranges of sets or two pairs in a £0.50/£1 live game then gl to them.
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2011, 10:00:55 AM » |
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I would never ever check this river. EVER.
would rather jam river than chk
Reasons please Lilddddddd I think in this spot when you have such narrow ranges both of you and we expect him to bluff never (the bottom of his range has showdown value) then there no value to checking here, in a perfect spot we should be bet calling because its In-exploitable for him to jam any river bet you make. It might be here bet fold is right vs specific villain although should 100% be a bet call optimally |
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2011, 12:17:53 PM » |
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I would never ever check this river. EVER.
would rather jam river than chk
Reasons please Lilddddddd I think in this spot when you have such narrow ranges both of you and we expect him to bluff never (the bottom of his range has showdown value) then there no value to checking here, in a perfect spot we should be bet calling because its In-exploitable for him to jam any river bet you make. It might be here bet fold is right vs specific villain although should 100% be a bet call optimally What hands is he shoving here that check turn? |
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2011, 02:25:57 PM » |
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I would never ever check this river. EVER.
would rather jam river than chk
Reasons please Lilddddddd I think in this spot when you have such narrow ranges both of you and we expect him to bluff never (the bottom of his range has showdown value) then there no value to checking here, in a perfect spot we should be bet calling because its In-exploitable for him to jam any river bet you make. It might be here bet fold is right vs specific villain although should 100% be a bet call optimally What hands is he shoving here that check turn? if villain is good he should jam AA/KK when we bet river imo, and chk them back if we dont. vs ur average £150 live player maybe this isnt the case |
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2011, 02:56:17 PM » |
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if villain is good he should jam AA/KK when we bet river imo, and chk them back if we dont. vs ur average £150 live player maybe this isnt the case
but he will obv jam ak as well if we bet, so if we narrow his range to aa/kk/ak and he will only bet ak if we check, surely we should check fold? |
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2011, 02:59:52 PM » |
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Time for the reveal?
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2011, 03:10:04 PM » |
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if villain is good he should jam AA/KK when we bet river imo, and chk them back if we dont. vs ur average £150 live player maybe this isnt the case
but he will obv jam ak as well if we bet, so if we narrow his range to aa/kk/ak and he will only bet ak if we check, surely we should check fold? he should jam 100% imo |
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2011, 03:10:59 PM » |
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my point is from a theoretical aspect the only way to play inexploitabley here is to bet call
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2011, 03:50:58 PM » |
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my point is from a theoretical aspect the only way to play inexploitabley here is to bet call
sry im prob being thick but surely he must bluff sometime if we check to make bet calling the only inexploitable strategy. |
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2011, 04:00:27 PM » |
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Time for the reveal?
Norrrr, Keys/Al Martin to come yet bro. DMorgan went with 120-snap. See if they agree with him. |
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2011, 04:42:33 PM » |
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Time for the reveal?
Norrrr, Keys/Al Martin to come yet bro. DMorgan went with 120-snap. See if they agree with him. poor lildave's opinion is not counted as one of the big three. i feel for ya brother. |
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