arsenal and opta stats

[gatso]

“There have been 981 Champions League games since 2003-04 and Arsenal are the first of 1,962 sides not to manage a shot of any form in a match since then,”

[pokerfan]

Colch Kev itt would be incred.

[Josedinho]

Since 2003 the team that has knocked Arsenal out has lost in the next round.

[Teacake]

Arsenal are the English dontcha know!

[Karabiner]

I think we were the CL's highest scorers this year before Tuesday.

We got a bunch v Shaktar which helped, well sort of...

Arsenal are the English dontcha know!

How did your lads do?

[Teacake]

I think we were the CL's highest scorers this year before Tuesday.

We got a bunch v Shaktar which helped, well sort of...

Arsenal are the English dontcha know!

How did your lads do?

Ralph its not a pop at Arsenal its a pop at all the idiots who have come out with this nonsense for the last 2 years. Barca are playing a different game to everyone else.

[Karabiner]

I think we were the CL's highest scorers this year before Tuesday.

We got a bunch v Shaktar which helped, well sort of...

Arsenal are the English dontcha know!

How did your lads do?

Ralph its not a pop at Arsenal its a pop at all the idiots who have come out with this nonsense for the last 2 years. Barca are playing a different game to everyone else.

Sorry Steph, I get a bit tetchy sometimes, it's gatso's fault.

[mondatoo]

I always want English teams to do well but a part of me wanted Barca to go through as they're such a joy to watch, they are so much better than everyone else it's unreal. Why the fuck Adrian Chiles and the rest of the mugs on ITV kept saying Spurs would give Barca a good game I do not no, Spurs would get annihilated. Barca v Real in the final if they avoid each other for me, shame the tickets are so ridic priced or might've went.

[Madone]

I always want English teams to do well but a part of me wanted Barca to go through as they're such a joy to watch, they are so much better than everyone else it's unreal. Why the fuck Adrian Chiles and the rest of the mugs on ITV kept saying Spurs would give Barca a good game I do not no, Spurs would get annihilated. Barca v Real in the final if they avoid each other for me, shame the tickets are so ridic priced or might've went.

Cus the media love Redknapp and everything he does, as they want him as next england manager. Im a spurs fan but they only ball they played was the long ball to Crouch the whole time he was on the pitch, expect that when he manages England aswell.

[tikay]

So glad Gatters started this Thread, the OPTA stats fascinate me, but I'm a little hesitant to get into debate with "proper" football supporters, as I'll get mauled.

Stats can be misleading, but they don't half expose stuff. I guess all the Premiership Teams scrutinise them to the nth degree, I wonder how far down the League this goes? Do Walsall, Plymouth, Forfar, East Fife do the same?

Back to Barca-Arsenal on Tuesday. Some incred stats, or I thought so, anyway.

208 passes completed by Iniesta & Xavi, compared to 214 by the entire Arsenal team.

108 passes completed by Xavi alone, the highest by all the players. Arsenal's highest was by Wilshere - 25. (He'll maybe make the Barc Second 11.....).

576 MORE completed passes by Barca than Arsenal. Barca had 790 out of 891, Arsenal 214 out of 307.

Arsenal had TWO touches in the Barca pen area. Barca had 47 in Arsenal's pen area.

I'd rather Arsenal won a trophy than any other Team, I admire everything about them, & Mr W. But those are some stats, or it seems to me they are.

Not a good match to watch for an Arsenal supporter, but it'd be churlish not to admire Barca these days, they are very much the team of the generation. A thing of beauty, like watching Brigadier Gerard in his prime, Ronnie O'Sullivan on form, or Deadly Derek mopping up.

Great moments in sport need to be cherished. Tuesday was one.

[kinboshi]

Souness was a great player and a terrible manager.  As a pundit though, he's quite often on the ball (so to speak).

His assertion that the current Barca team are the "best club side ever" is one that can certainly be argued.  There definitely aren't many better are there?

[The Camel]

Souness was a great player and a terrible manager.  As a pundit though, he's quite often on the ball (so to speak).

His assertion that the current Barca team are the "best club side ever" is one that can certainly be argued.  There definitely aren't many better are there?

I think you can take the club bit out if that sentence.

I can't remember an international team better than this Barca team.

Basically they have all the key components of the WC/EC winning national team + the best the player in the world.

[nirvana]

Souness was a great player and a terrible manager.  As a pundit though, he's quite often on the ball (so to speak).

His assertion that the current Barca team are the "best club side ever" is one that can certainly be argued.  There definitely aren't many better are there?

I think you can take the club bit out if that sentence.

I can't remember an international team better than this Barca team.

Basically they have all the key components of the WC/EC winning national team + the best the player in the world.

As well as the best player, how many do they have of the worlds best 10 ? Quite a few. Ronaldo is possibly the only other player in the world who is near their kind of collective level.

I would have enjoyed Bendtner spiking the last minute goal to take us through but it would also have been a travesty

[redarmi]

This Barca team are easily the best team (club or country) I have ever seen and it isn't even close.  I am not really old enough to go back beyond the early 80's but the only teams I can think of off the top of my head that it could be argued were even close were the late 70's/early 80's Liverpool teams and the Real team with Puskas and DiStefano that won it five years on the trot.  This Arsenal team are a truly wonderful team that is crammed full of really exciting talent and I think they will iwn the league this year yet Barca have comfortably beaten them two years in a row and tbh it hasn't even been close.

[Karabiner]

So glad Gatters started this Thread, the OPTA stats fascinate me, but I'm a little hesitant to get into debate with "proper" football supporters, as I'll get mauled.

Stats can be misleading, but they don't half expose stuff. I guess all the Premiership Teams scrutinise them to the nth degree, I wonder how far down the League this goes? Do Walsall, Plymouth, Forfar, East Fife do the same?

Back to Barca-Arsenal on Tuesday. Some incred stats, or I thought so, anyway.

208 passes completed by Iniesta & Xavi, compared to 214 by the entire Arsenal team.

108 passes completed by Xavi alone, the highest by all the players. Arsenal's highest was by Wilshere - 25. (He'll maybe make the Barc Second 11.....).

576 MORE completed passes by Barca than Arsenal. Barca had 790 out of 891, Arsenal 214 out of 307.

Arsenal had TWO touches in the Barca pen area. Barca had 47 in Arsenal's pen area.

I'd rather Arsenal won a trophy than any other Team, I admire everything about them, & Mr W. But those are some stats, or it seems to me they are.

Not a good match to watch for an Arsenal supporter, but it'd be churlish not to admire Barca these days, they are very much the team of the generation. A thing of beauty, like watching Brigadier Gerard in his prime, Ronnie O'Sullivan on form, or Deadly Derek mopping up.

Great moments in sport need to be cherished. Tuesday was one.

I'm sure all of your stats. are pretty much correct but it's hard to take an objective view of them when they are mostly compiled with ten men versus eleven. It's hard enough to take them on with the full compliment.

Until RvP got sent off barca had made very few chances and had only scored after Cesc gave the ball away 25 yards out in the dying seconds of the first half.

We also must be the only side ever to score in the CL without having a shot on target.