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Re: Earthquake & tsunami hits Japan
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March 11, 2011, 08:11:44 PM »
@AndreaTOAP Scientists on CNN now is saying entire island of #Honshu #Japan moved eastward by 8 feet (2.3 m)
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Re: Earthquake & tsunami hits Japan
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Quote from: rex008 on March 11, 2011, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 11, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
Quote from: Waz1892 on March 11, 2011, 10:59:41 AM
Nuclear Plant in Northeast Japan on fire!! - And they're saying they can't pump water to cool the reactor down!
That's why they shut the reactors down when there's an earthquake of significant force, so they don't need ongoing cooling.
There are four nuclear power stations on the East coast of Japan, and quite a few other nuclear-processing plants, etc. in that area. You'd hope that they're all safe.
It was an oil refinery that was on fire, looked like a gas leak (according to the chaps here who know about these things).
Shutting down a reactor doesn't stop it producing heat, unfortunately. Somewhere between 5-10% of the energy is purely from radioactive decay (for enriched uranium) rather than induced fission, so there will still be a fairly big heat load. Japanese reactors are pretty decent though, should be able to cope. Simple convection will cope with a fair bit, even if your pumps fail.
Now hearing they might leak raidation out into the sky to help cooling? Did I hear right?
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Re: Earthquake & tsunami hits Japan
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March 11, 2011, 09:12:08 PM »
Quote from: Waz1892 on March 11, 2011, 09:08:20 PM
Quote from: rex008 on March 11, 2011, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 11, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
Quote from: Waz1892 on March 11, 2011, 10:59:41 AM
Nuclear Plant in Northeast Japan on fire!! - And they're saying they can't pump water to cool the reactor down!
That's why they shut the reactors down when there's an earthquake of significant force, so they don't need ongoing cooling.
There are four nuclear power stations on the East coast of Japan, and quite a few other nuclear-processing plants, etc. in that area. You'd hope that they're all safe.
It was an oil refinery that was on fire, looked like a gas leak (according to the chaps here who know about these things).
Shutting down a reactor doesn't stop it producing heat, unfortunately. Somewhere between 5-10% of the energy is purely from radioactive decay (for enriched uranium) rather than induced fission, so there will still be a fairly big heat load. Japanese reactors are pretty decent though, should be able to cope. Simple convection will cope with a fair bit, even if your pumps fail.
Now hearing they might leak raidation out into the sky to help cooling? Did I hear right?
Better than a blow up if true surely.
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Re: Earthquake & tsunami hits Japan
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March 11, 2011, 09:22:53 PM »
Quote from: pokerfan on March 11, 2011, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: Waz1892 on March 11, 2011, 09:08:20 PM
Quote from: rex008 on March 11, 2011, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: kinboshi on March 11, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
Quote from: Waz1892 on March 11, 2011, 10:59:41 AM
Nuclear Plant in Northeast Japan on fire!! - And they're saying they can't pump water to cool the reactor down!
That's why they shut the reactors down when there's an earthquake of significant force, so they don't need ongoing cooling.
There are four nuclear power stations on the East coast of Japan, and quite a few other nuclear-processing plants, etc. in that area. You'd hope that they're all safe.
It was an oil refinery that was on fire, looked like a gas leak (according to the chaps here who know about these things).
Shutting down a reactor doesn't stop it producing heat, unfortunately. Somewhere between 5-10% of the energy is purely from radioactive decay (for enriched uranium) rather than induced fission, so there will still be a fairly big heat load. Japanese reactors are pretty decent though, should be able to cope. Simple convection will cope with a fair bit, even if your pumps fail.
Now hearing they might leak raidation out into the sky to help cooling? Did I hear right?
Better than a blow up if true surely.
defo, just doesn't seem right! I guess the nuclear scientists know a lil more than me tho!
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Re: Earthquake & tsunami hits Japan
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March 12, 2011, 09:44:49 AM »
An explosion at Fukushima-1:
That's not good news.
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Re: Earthquake & tsunami hits Japan
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This is scary.
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Skynews showing a before and after photo of North east town Minamisanriku. Completely unbelieveable - total devastation.
Trying to find pics
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html
Cant find the before picture but this one shows the complete destruction of this town. This used to be a built up area and it has just been wiped off the face of the earth.
The scale of the clean up/rebuild process is unimaginable - where do you even think about starting?
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March 13, 2011, 11:49:53 AM »
http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm
Look at these pictures to see the devastation. Like Alex said, whole towns literally washed away.
So sad.
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March 13, 2011, 12:23:50 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on March 13, 2011, 11:49:53 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm
Look at these pictures to see the devastation. Like Alex said, whole towns literally washed away.
So sad.
Just wow.
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Re: Earthquake & tsunami hits Japan
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March 13, 2011, 02:14:21 PM »
Great article which explains why the radioactivity you would get from flying to japan would be worse than wandering around at the moment outside the plant.
http://morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors/
I dont think he is very impressed with the mainstream media and multiple contiued factual inaccuracies.
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March 13, 2011, 02:31:49 PM »
Good article, makes a lot of sense.
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Quote from: neeko on March 13, 2011, 02:14:21 PM
Great article which explains why the radioactivity you would get from flying to japan would be worse than wandering around at the moment outside the plant.
http://morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors/
I dont think he is very impressed with the mainstream media and multiple contiued factual inaccuracies.
a day spent at pripyat, where the chernobyl plant was, gives you less radiation than a flight to new york and that one actually blew up
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Re: Earthquake & tsunami hits Japan
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March 13, 2011, 05:22:27 PM »
Pretty amazing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/13/japan-tsunami-survivor-shinkawa-rescued-fukushima?CMP=twt_fd
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Quote from: Pelham Boy on March 13, 2011, 05:22:27 PM
Pretty amazing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/13/japan-tsunami-survivor-shinkawa-rescued-fukushima?CMP=twt_fd
wow. I love that he's sat on his own roof but it's 10 miles away from where it should be
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