Earthquake & tsunami hits Japan

[outragous76]

i have seen several heart warming moments, a father and son walked for 2 days trying to find wife and daughter - we will obv never know whether it was a modern tv "set up", but their emotion when they walked into a shelter and find them was truely amazing and seemed very genuine. That is a heart warming story.

a guy on a roof several miles out at sea having lost everything including his family can never be described as "funny"

but nice try

relevance? that's the first use of the word 'funny' on this thread. you can't just introduce a word yourself and then moan about others using it when that didn't happen

my bad you didnt say funny - you said you loved it - you sicko

[GreekStein]

It was Gatso's description that wasn't very good.

Obv his intention wasn't one of malice. Those of us who know Gatso whished by the comment because we know he obv didn't mean harm by it and it was prob just a poor way of saying what Anthony Kendall's post just did.

Can understand how it was taken the wrong way.

[The Camel]

To be fair to Alex, I can see why he was offended by Gatso's post though.

and that's wtf moment number 2

I was expressing amazement at a pretty stunning story of human survival. if people can get offended by that then they probably need to step away from their computers, tv screens and newspapers for a while

It wasn't what you said that caused offence, it was the way you said it.

[outragous76]

feel free to enlighten me as to which of these definitions you were referring to

love   /lʌv/  Show Spelled
[luhv]  Show IPA
noun, verb, loved, lov·ing. 
–noun
1. a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.
2. a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.
3. sexual passion or desire.
4. a person toward whom love is felt; beloved person; sweetheart.
5. (used in direct address as a term of endearment, affection, or the like): Would you like to see a movie, love?
6. a love affair; an intensely amorous incident; amour.
7. sexual intercourse; copulation.
8. ( initial capital letter ) a personification of sexual affection, as Eros or Cupid.
9. affectionate concern for the well-being of others: the love of one's neighbor.
10. strong predilection, enthusiasm, or liking for anything: her love of books.
11. the object or thing so liked: The theater was her great love.
12. the benevolent affection of god for His creatures, or the reverent affection due from them to God.
13. Chiefly Tennis . a score of zero; nothing.
14. a word formerly used in communications to represent the letter L.
–verb (used with object)
15. to have love or affection for: All her pupils love her.
16. to have a profoundly tender, passionate affection for (another person).
17. to have a strong liking for; take great pleasure in: to love music.
18. to need or require; benefit greatly from: Plants love sunlight.
19. to embrace and kiss (someone), as a lover.
20. to have sexual intercourse with.
–verb (used without object)
21. to have love or affection for another person; be in love.
—Verb phrase
22. love up, to hug and cuddle: She loves him up every chance she gets.
—Idioms
23. for love,
a. out of affection or liking; for pleasure.
b. without compensation; gratuitously: He took care of the poor for love.
24. for the love of, in consideration of; for the sake of: For the love of mercy, stop that noise.
25. in love, infused with or feeling deep affection or passion: a youth always in love.
26. in love with, feeling deep affection or passion for (a person, idea, occupation, etc.); enamored of: in love with the girl next door; in love with one's work.
27. make love,
a. to embrace and kiss as lovers.
b. to engage in sexual activity.
28. no love lost, dislike; animosity: There was no love lost between the two brothers

[celtic]

My money is on number 3

[GreekStein]

My money is on number 3

Sick, 'look at me binking and cashing comps left right and centre brag' posts where all you talk about is your money.

ffs

[TightEnd]

Lets cool it please

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thanks

[Hairydude]

9 is Appropriate for gats posts no?

[neeko]

Japan are in a really tough spot with regard to electricity generation, they have very few oil & gas resources so they have to import them all. By generating 30% of their electricity by nuclear power they are minimising their purchases of Oil from the gulf.

For the future they are going to need to make a decision soon as to how to generate electricity for the next 40 years - either more oil burning plants which will have the problems with the neverending cost of the raw material going up (+ environmental problems) or build new nuclear power stations.

I think they will have no choice and will build new ones - they could build plants that can survive an 9.0 earthquake and a tsunami and a hydrogen gas explosion with only "minor" problems, in the 70's - the new ones will be even better. (i guess you could argue that their problems are not "minor" but I think anything less than a core explosion (the equivalent of a dirty bomb) is a good outcome)

On Kins point about the media - I wish experts would use statistics more - i know the broadcasters think that the viewers are too stupid to understand them but i think that an answers that says <0.1% is a lot better that saying "very small possibility" which a viewer may take to mean <10%

[kinboshi]

Japan are in a really tough spot with regard to electricity generation, they have very few oil & gas resources so they have to import them all. By generating 30% of their electricity by nuclear power they are minimising their purchases of Oil from the gulf.

For the future they are going to need to make a decision soon as to how to generate electricity for the next 40 years - either more oil burning plants which will have the problems with the neverending cost of the raw material going up (+ environmental problems) or build new nuclear power stations.

I think they will have no choice and will build new ones - they could build plants that can survive an 9.0 earthquake and a tsunami and a hydrogen gas explosion with only "minor" problems, in the 70's - the new ones will be even better. (i guess you could argue that their problems are not "minor" but I think anything less than a core explosion (the equivalent of a dirty bomb) is a good outcome)

On Kins point about the media - I wish experts would use statistics more - i know the broadcasters think that the viewers are too stupid to understand them but i think that an answers that says <0.1% is a lot better that saying "very small possibility" which a viewer may take to mean <10%

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12733393

Look at the headline of that page - "Japan earthquake: Meltdown alert at Fukushima reactor".  It sounds as there's an alert about a meltdown at the plant.  That's not actually the case.

[nirvana]

So obv that Gatso's remark was a celebration of survival and life I can't believe people are making a spectacle of themselves trying to tell him how he should express himself - utter bollocks

[The Camel]

So obv that Gatso's remark was a celebration of survival and life I can't believe people are making a spectacle of themselves trying to tell him how he should express himself - utter bollocks

Fwiw I wasn't offended by Gatso's post.

When I read it I thought "That's a bit insensitive", but thought nothing more about it until I saw Alex's tirade.

I was simply playing Devil's Advocate because I thought the rush to condemn Alex was a bit harsh.

I certainly wouldn't dream of telling Gatso how to express himself.

[outragous76]

So obv that Gatso's remark was a celebration of survival and life I can't believe people are making a spectacle of themselves trying to tell him how he should express himself - utter bollocks

I think this was aimed at me keith

I wasnt offended by the remark although I did think it was very insensitive. Continuing to justify it rather than just say " i probably didnt mean what you interpretted it as" and maybe a "sorry if i offended you" is obv not in gatso's  make up.

but apparently im the villain here - obv

[Cf]

A few points for my POV on the whole thing...

Firstly, I've read gatso's comment multiple times. And I fail to see how it either a) intended to cause offence, or b) how it actually caused offence. I just don't see it. I don't think it was even worded badly as others have stated - I think the meaning is incredibly obvious. Yeah, I guess the use of the word "love" can cause ambiguity but I'd think most people should be able to interpret the context in which it was used.

Secondly, life goes on for the rest of us. Yeah, what happened to Japan is awful, but that doesn't mean I'm going to put my own life on hold sitting and doing nothing but feel sorry for them. That's not how it works. If this was how we did things then you'd put the news on in the morning, read the tragedy of the day, and never get anything done. But ultimately in this case it's nothing to do with me. That's not to say I have no empathy but we simply can't worry about everyone elses problems. eg, my best friends mother died just over a year ago. Obviously this shook me, and a lot of my time around this period was spent checking to see my friend was ok, arranging things to do, comforting him, etc. This is one of the things friends are for - I wouldn't expect the people in Japan to have been worrying about him at this point.

And finally the subject of finding it "funny". Simply put: yes, I find the idea of someone using the roof of their house as a boat amusing. That's not to say I actually like what has happened. If it was my choice his house would still be one piece and there'd be no disaster. But I can't change that. The story obviously also has the against all odds miracle surviving aspect, but i'm not even going to claim to use that as justification. I am generally a fan of black and inappropriate humour - and i'd say this is what this is. This doesn't make me a bad person. What I find MUCH more offensive is people who want to take the moral high ground and call me a sicko. Fine, it's something you might not find amusing - i'm not going to try and force my views on you and convince you it is - and I expect the same the other way round.

[gatso]

So obv that Gatso's remark was a celebration of survival and life I can't believe people are making a spectacle of themselves trying to tell him how he should express himself - utter bollocks

I think this was aimed at me keith

I wasnt offended by the remark although I did think it was very insensitive. Continuing to justify it rather than just say " i probably didnt mean what you interpretted it as" and maybe a "sorry if i offended you" is obv not in gatso's  make up.

but apparently im the villain here - obv

so I should apologise for offending you even though you weren't offended?

I would point out that I was offended by you making things up that I'd said, putting your own spin on them and then accusing me of being 'a sicko' for my comments but doubt an apology is in your make up either

I make no apology for what I said as the rational 99% of the forum could understand what was written

I make no apology for my (now deleted) attack on you. I actually think I underreacted

surprised that your sicko post is still up tbh seeing as it caused the deletions