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[smashedagain]

Readless I get it in george because at these stakes there are too many clowns who wanna bust themselves with bare aces or kings.

if the guy has hand like AA24 and dave hits the turn making a str8 and the guy has no hearts the guy has no re draw and prob gets his last $100 drawing dead any way especially at this level. dont know about on line but live tight players check AA KK on the turn fearing sets (especially in multi way pot) so do you not think we may get a free river card occasinally when we miss the turn saving that last $100.

[GreekStein]

I doubt we get any free rivers jase if we miss. Very rarely if we do. Usually the free rivers would be the ones we don't want free

[smashedagain]

ok. fair point. managed a scarf and bobble hat just sat reading this post

[maldini32]

Yep villain is tight and ive played a lot of hands v him.


Ps he runs like a train!

[SuuPRlim]

Problem is we almost never have a flush draw when we flat the flop, so our opponent is likely to play almost perfectly against our range. And it would be a pretty huge mistake to call flop and fold turn against AA24etc

any merit to leading the flop in your opinion?

Would he check AAxx no hearts, no st draw behind?
If you lead what does he do with AAxx no hearts, no st draw?

I think personally I expect most people to chk bare AA and fold it to a bet....not sure if anyone else agrees with it. personally I'm gonna bet fold there 100%with the  in my hand and without it IDK would depend, i'd be betting 1/3 pot tho his betsize of 3/4 is horrible

I think this hand is gonna do much better equity-wise if it's 3way....so I still cant decide if potting, leading for 1/2 pot or c/jamming are better - altho in this specific spot I think c/f would have been nut line but meh@folding

[SuuPRlim]

Yep villain is tight and ive played a lot of hands v him.

Ps he runs like a train!

yh of the 10k hands I have on him he -1,100bb's at hand 8,500 he's now +5,100bb's so just your standrd 62buyin 1500 hands lol

[doubleup]

Did you have his cbet stats?  If he appears to cbet only when he hits or when he can rep hitting, this must be a marginal call and def not a push. 

[SuuPRlim]

Did you have his cbet stats?  If he appears to cbet only when he hits or when he can rep hitting, this must be a marginal call and def not a push. 

If we're talking about the specific pot in the OP then he has a pretty high Cbet, however it's obvious he isn't bet folding here so the stat becomes kind of useless.

I do think though that jamming is much better than calling, when we're so close to our equity (like I would have said of the top of my head we have 35-40% vs AA with reds) and we need a lil over 40% to stack off, whereas it's an EV mistake to get it in it's a much great mistake to continue in the hand and not realize all our equity.

[TheFallen]

I donk lead

[GreekStein]

I donk lead

4 way, with stack sizes and villain description, I don't like this at all.

What's your reasoning?

[TommyD]

Readless I get it in george because at these stakes there are too many clowns who wanna bust themselves with bare aces or kings.

Pretty much this.

If the villain has solid C-Bet stats (AA with hearts here etc) then it's borderline call to fold.  Then again when I hit a flop like this I normally end up grabbing a cowboy hat, wave it in the air and scream 'Let's Gamble.'

Hate the lead, especially at these stakes.  All manner of non nut two heart combinations come along for the ride with this many people behind you, let alone the stronger combo hands.