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Re: Census 2011 Today
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Quote from: RED-DOG on March 30, 2011, 12:15:20 AM
We get one box to tick, "Gypsy / Irish Traveller" Two totally different and separate ethnic groups, but just the one box.
My form said Gypsy OR Irish Traveller. You have a dud form imo.
Just done this, only took 3 visits from the cencus rep to remind me.
Nosey buggers.
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April 18, 2011, 07:12:32 PM »
I read last week 30,000 door to door investigators have been employed to chase up the 7 million outstanding census forms
thats about 250 visits per man, wow whats that costing.
Where did they find all these trained callers, Jobcentre plus
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April 18, 2011, 07:30:07 PM »
Quote from: The-Crow on April 18, 2011, 07:12:32 PM
I read last week 30,000 door to door investigators have been employed to chase up the 7 million outstanding census forms
thats about 250 visits per man, wow whats that costing.
Where did they find all these trained callers, Jobcentre plus
i know a few firemen doing it on days off
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April 18, 2011, 07:36:39 PM »
Quote from: celtic on April 18, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 30, 2011, 12:15:20 AM
We get one box to tick, "Gypsy / Irish Traveller" Two totally different and separate ethnic groups, but just the one box.
My form said Gypsy OR Irish Traveller. You have a dud form imo.
Just done this, only took 3 visits from the cencus rep to remind me.
Nosey buggers.
Have you been fined £1,000?
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Re: Census 2011 Today
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April 18, 2011, 08:19:44 PM »
Not that Im aware of.
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April 18, 2011, 08:23:23 PM »
I think they actually only fined about 30 or so people last time round. I haven't done mine yet, I'm just debating whether I can be arsed or not............
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April 18, 2011, 08:46:01 PM »
Quote from: celtic on April 18, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 30, 2011, 12:15:20 AM
We get one box to tick, "Gypsy / Irish Traveller" Two totally different and separate ethnic groups, but just the one box.
My form said Gypsy OR Irish Traveller. You have a dud form imo.
Just done this, only took 3 visits from the cencus rep to remind me.
Nosey buggers.
The point I was making was there was one box for two completely different ethnic groups. Different history, culture, origins etc. Plus, they asked us first and we advised them that they needed to provide separate boxes.
If you're going to collect data, collect accurate data.
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Re: Census 2011 Today
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April 18, 2011, 08:53:39 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on April 18, 2011, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: celtic on April 18, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 30, 2011, 12:15:20 AM
We get one box to tick, "Gypsy / Irish Traveller" Two totally different and separate ethnic groups, but just the one box.
My form said Gypsy OR Irish Traveller. You have a dud form imo.
Just done this, only took 3 visits from the cencus rep to remind me.
Nosey buggers.
The point I was making was there was one box for two completely different ethnic groups. Different history, culture, origins etc. Plus, they asked us first and we advised them that they needed to provide separate boxes.
If you're going to collect data, collect accurate data.
IIRC there also wasn't any separate ethnic group box to tick to separate between East Anglian, Cornish or Hastings' Fishermen ethnicities - ethnic data is
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collected accurately.
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April 18, 2011, 09:04:06 PM »
Quote from: Jon MW on April 18, 2011, 08:53:39 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on April 18, 2011, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: celtic on April 18, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 30, 2011, 12:15:20 AM
We get one box to tick, "Gypsy / Irish Traveller" Two totally different and separate ethnic groups, but just the one box.
My form said Gypsy OR Irish Traveller. You have a dud form imo.
Just done this, only took 3 visits from the cencus rep to remind me.
Nosey buggers.
The point I was making was there was one box for two completely different ethnic groups. Different history, culture, origins etc. Plus, they asked us first and we advised them that they needed to provide separate boxes.
If you're going to collect data, collect accurate data.
IIRC there also wasn't any separate ethnic group box to tick to separate between East Anglian, Cornish or Hastings' Fishermen ethnicities - ethnic data is
never
collected accurately.
I didn't know that East Anglian, Cornish or Hastings' Fishermen had separate, legally recognised ethnic status.
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April 18, 2011, 09:26:08 PM »
I know what you mean, I had to tick the box that included English.
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April 18, 2011, 09:26:25 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on April 18, 2011, 09:04:06 PM
Quote from: Jon MW on April 18, 2011, 08:53:39 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on April 18, 2011, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: celtic on April 18, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 30, 2011, 12:15:20 AM
We get one box to tick, "Gypsy / Irish Traveller" Two totally different and separate ethnic groups, but just the one box.
My form said Gypsy OR Irish Traveller. You have a dud form imo.
Just done this, only took 3 visits from the cencus rep to remind me.
Nosey buggers.
The point I was making was there was one box for two completely different ethnic groups. Different history, culture, origins etc. Plus, they asked us first and we advised them that they needed to provide separate boxes.
If you're going to collect data, collect accurate data.
IIRC there also wasn't any separate ethnic group box to tick to separate between East Anglian, Cornish or Hastings' Fishermen ethnicities - ethnic data is
never
collected accurately.
I didn't know that East Anglian, Cornish or Hastings' Fishermen had separate, legally recognised ethnic status.
I didn't say they did have a separate, legally recognised ethnic status - I only implied they had a separate ethnic status.
That's the reason why ethnicity data is never collected accurately, it relies on an imiposed definition rather than a natural one. The resulting analysis is therefore skewed depending on how those defintions are written - for example, most ethnic monitoring data doesn't have either Gypsy or Irish Traveller on it, so the resulting analysis on it is skewed against that demographic.
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April 18, 2011, 09:27:22 PM »
Quote from: celtic on April 18, 2011, 09:26:08 PM
I know what you mean, I had to tick the box that included English.
is another way of putting it - i.e. it's not right, but it's not the only case
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April 18, 2011, 09:28:58 PM »
the box I had to tick threw me in with a load of southern softies...
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April 19, 2011, 03:30:16 AM »
They already know everything they need to know about you.
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