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« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2011, 03:47:46 PM »

Like to see Wigan stay up coz if they go down reckon they will be there or there abouts in the cship next season.

Like to see Blackpool go down because I think the current side - Adam would struggle to make top half in cship next season.
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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2011, 04:15:34 PM »

I think you could run the Premiership 1000 times, and not come up with a scenario as sick as this going into the last day. Literally.

The sickest scenario will be if the Wigan, Birmingham and Blackpool matches all go to form, and they all lose. Then it becomes a case of who loses by less.

I can definitely see a scenario where Blackpool lose narrowly, and a battered Birmingham side get tonked at Spurs, who themselves need a result. And then Blackpool stay up despite losing.

Really hope that Ferguson takes the integrity as far as putting out a team to win by as many as they can. Somehow, I'm doubting it.
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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2011, 04:16:08 PM »

I'd like to see Blackpool stay up because they will then safely book one of the relegation spots for next season (along with Norwich) meaning QPR less likely to go straight back down.
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« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2011, 04:20:30 PM »

I think you could run the Premiership 1000 times, and not come up with a scenario as sick as this going into the last day. Literally.

The sickest scenario will be if the Wigan, Birmingham and Blackpool matches all go to form, and they all lose. Then it becomes a case of who loses by less.

I can definitely see a scenario where Blackpool lose narrowly, and a battered Birmingham side get tonked at Spurs, who themselves need a result. And then Blackpool stay up despite losing.

Really hope that Ferguson takes the integrity as far as putting out a team to win by as many as they can. Somehow, I'm doubting it.

If I am Fergy I don't pick one player who I'd even want on the bench for CL final.
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« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2011, 04:26:44 PM »

I think you could run the Premiership 1000 times, and not come up with a scenario as sick as this going into the last day. Literally.

The sickest scenario will be if the Wigan, Birmingham and Blackpool matches all go to form, and they all lose. Then it becomes a case of who loses by less.

I can definitely see a scenario where Blackpool lose narrowly, and a battered Birmingham side get tonked at Spurs, who themselves need a result. And then Blackpool stay up despite losing.

Really hope that Ferguson takes the integrity as far as putting out a team to win by as many as they can. Somehow, I'm doubting it.

If I am Fergy I don't pick one player who I'd even want on the bench for CL final.

And I think that's completely fair, and that there shouldn't be a fine for it.
There is so much hidden luck in football, and Blackpool would just be benefitting from fortunate circumstances.

 Blackburn already have- it's incredibly lucky to have a situation where the champions equalise against you, and then want to play out a draw.

For non United fans, it will just be incredibly tilting in the next title race where Ferguson whinges about another team's integrity or effort level. (ala Nottingham Forest and Leeds in 1996, which was the whole reason behind's Keegan's famous rant)
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« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2011, 04:36:40 PM »

I think you could run the Premiership 1000 times, and not come up with a scenario as sick as this going into the last day. Literally.

The sickest scenario will be if the Wigan, Birmingham and Blackpool matches all go to form, and they all lose. Then it becomes a case of who loses by less.

I can definitely see a scenario where Blackpool lose narrowly, and a battered Birmingham side get tonked at Spurs, who themselves need a result. And then Blackpool stay up despite losing.

Really hope that Ferguson takes the integrity as far as putting out a team to win by as many as they can. Somehow, I'm doubting it.

If I am Fergy I don't pick one player who I'd even want on the bench for CL final.

And I think that's completely fair, and that there shouldn't be a fine for it.
There is so much hidden luck in football, and Blackpool would just be benefitting from fortunate circumstances.

 Blackburn already have- it's incredibly lucky to have a situation where the champions equalise against you, and then want to play out a draw.

For non United fans, it will just be incredibly tilting in the next title race where Ferguson whinges about another team's integrity or effort level. (ala Nottingham Forest and Leeds in 1996, which was the whole reason behind's Keegan's famous rant)

Plus the fact Blackpool and Wolves both put out weaker sides in games they didn't think they could win which similarly could've effected the title race.
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« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2011, 05:15:28 PM »

I think you could run the Premiership 1000 times, and not come up with a scenario as sick as this going into the last day. Literally.

The sickest scenario will be if the Wigan, Birmingham and Blackpool matches all go to form, and they all lose. Then it becomes a case of who loses by less.

I can definitely see a scenario where Blackpool lose narrowly, and a battered Birmingham side get tonked at Spurs, who themselves need a result. And then Blackpool stay up despite losing.

Really hope that Ferguson takes the integrity as far as putting out a team to win by as many as they can. Somehow, I'm doubting it.

If I am Fergy I don't pick one player who I'd even want on the bench for CL final.

And I think that's completely fair, and that there shouldn't be a fine for it.
There is so much hidden luck in football, and Blackpool would just be benefitting from fortunate circumstances.

 Blackburn already have- it's incredibly lucky to have a situation where the champions equalise against you, and then want to play out a draw.

For non United fans, it will just be incredibly tilting in the next title race where Ferguson whinges about another team's integrity or effort level. (ala Nottingham Forest and Leeds in 1996, which was the whole reason behind's Keegan's famous rant)

Plus the fact Blackpool and Wolves both put out weaker sides in games they didn't think they could win which similarly could've effected the title race.

+1.

 Which is why the FA's £25,000 fine is ridiculous, and typical of their complete wishy-washiness, and inability to make a clear decision. They need to realise

1) That's about 1% of the way to being a deterrent.

2) If they think it is a deterrent, do they seriously want to hurt an English team's chances in a Champions League final?

3) If they want to take it that far, surely they have to take it the whole way? Will they be watching Stoke's perforamce with a view to a possible fine? There is a far greater chance of a Stoke first eleven, deflated after that cup final performance and with nothing to play for, damaging any integrity, than there is of a Man United second eleven, fighting for places on the bench.
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« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2011, 05:19:39 PM »

Think birmingham are nailed on to lose at spurs and that wigan cld struggle to win at stoke, wld love to see blackburn go down as im on at large prices and even tempted to top up at 12s now, but they'll prob escape due to others badness. Blackpool in prem next season wld be fun!
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« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2011, 05:37:10 PM »

I think you could run the Premiership 1000 times, and not come up with a scenario as sick as this going into the last day. Literally.

The sickest scenario will be if the Wigan, Birmingham and Blackpool matches all go to form, and they all lose. Then it becomes a case of who loses by less.

I can definitely see a scenario where Blackpool lose narrowly, and a battered Birmingham side get tonked at Spurs, who themselves need a result. And then Blackpool stay up despite losing.

Really hope that Ferguson takes the integrity as far as putting out a team to win by as many as they can. Somehow, I'm doubting it.

If I am Fergy I don't pick one player who I'd even want on the bench for CL final.

And I think that's completely fair, and that there shouldn't be a fine for it.
There is so much hidden luck in football, and Blackpool would just be benefitting from fortunate circumstances.

 Blackburn already have- it's incredibly lucky to have a situation where the champions equalise against you, and then want to play out a draw.

For non United fans, it will just be incredibly tilting in the next title race where Ferguson whinges about another team's integrity or effort level. (ala Nottingham Forest and Leeds in 1996, which was the whole reason behind's Keegan's famous rant)

Plus the fact Blackpool and Wolves both put out weaker sides in games they didn't think they could win which similarly could've effected the title race.

+1.

 Which is why the FA's £25,000 fine is ridiculous, and typical of their complete wishy-washiness, and inability to make a clear decision. They need to realise

1) That's about 1% of the way to being a deterrent.

2) If they think it is a deterrent, do they seriously want to hurt an English team's chances in a Champions League final?

3) If they want to take it that far, surely they have to take it the whole way? Will they be watching Stoke's perforamce with a view to a possible fine? There is a far greater chance of a Stoke first eleven, deflated after that cup final performance and with nothing to play for, damaging any integrity, than there is of a Man United second eleven, fighting for places on the bench.

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« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2011, 06:28:54 PM »

The whole argument of weakened teams is flawed now you have to pick a squad of 25. Just makes no sense.
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« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2011, 09:32:01 PM »

I'd like to see Blackpool stay up because they will then safely book one of the relegation spots for next season (along with Norwich) meaning QPR less likely to go straight back down.

I am glad that is sorted then, may as well not play any games next season.


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« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2011, 09:34:31 PM »

gonna be a great final day

sure is.
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« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2011, 09:37:43 PM »

The whole argument of weakened teams is flawed now you have to pick a squad of 25. Just makes no sense.

Can still play 11 under 16s if u want I think?
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« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2011, 10:22:05 PM »

The whole argument of weakened teams is flawed now you have to pick a squad of 25. Just makes no sense.

Can still play 11 under 16s if u want I think?

If u want to name 11 under 16s in your squad then I don't see the problem in it. Doubt it'd happen tho
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« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2011, 10:24:27 PM »

cba to find a better place to post this. police called to the west ham end of season dinner, fighting between fans and players
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