Alone in the Dark - The poker musings of an also ran

[cambridgealex]

 I still believe poker is results orientated.

Can't believe you wrote this. It makes me happy. Actually it depends what you mean. Do you mean that people's view of who's good and who's not is wildy distorted by results? Because this couldn't be more true. E.g. Jason runs supergood and therefore cashes a lot. [ ] means you're good/winning player

NB: the above is just an example, definitely not my belief.

Or do you mean that results mean everything, "the proof is in the pudding" type line? In which case, sigh, gg.

[smashedagain]

 I still believe poker is results orientated.

Can't believe you wrote this. It makes me happy. Actually it depends what you mean. Do you mean that people's view of who's good and who's not is wildy distorted by results? Because this couldn't be more true. E.g. Jason runs supergood and therefore cashes a lot. [ ] means you're good/winning player

NB: the above is just an example, definitely not my belief.

Or do you mean that results mean everything, "the proof is in the pudding" type line? In which case, sigh, gg.

dont ask me to explain what i mean alex coz you know even for me its impossible.... making you happy is good for me. ask miss nutt how i make her feel every time she reads my posts or facebook having been reallly pretty cruel in my first post on here about her. i have kids to feed etc so results and the money are whats important to me. if i could win the wsop main by getting lucky for 9 days then this is what i would do to secure my future. but it is not possible so for now i will continue the live bum hunting. despite your earlier attitude at the tables of youth full arrogance which some dont like , i now believe that everyone loves you here. everyone wants to see you win (you are a nice guy). putting bread on the table is far more important than than being a nice guy and playing the fashionable way. i keep putting the results in the onion sack but dont feel the need to change my game because i should be 3 and 4 betting more raising the button lighter etc etc.

just to make a point about the on line game. when tom and i were winning players on line and doing 40 hour weeks + times were so much easier.... just read ruperts tank thread and  has it me thinking wtf we are never gonna catch up and become winning players on line again. i have a degree and post 91 just blew my mind. so for now my game selection means win cheap seats on line and take advantage of the live idiots.

[pokerfan]

If a guy is playing well running well and cashing a lot is he experiencing the opposite of variance.

That just means he's on the positive side.

[smashedagain]

If a guy is playing well running well and cashing a lot is he experiencing the opposite of variance.

That just means he's on the positive side.

argh thank you. i'm so dumb sometimes . so there is positive and a negative side to varience. yes both me and titbeam are experiencing varience then. very intersting that we are at the opposite side of it. in the on lines i'm opposite to him and in lives i'm opposite to him. 

[Dubai]

Will accept my game is high variance coz you say it is but is it has to be less high variance than the guy getting it in bad all the time. If a guy is playing well running well and cashing a lot is he experiencing the opposite of variance. And what is the opposite of variance. I still maintain variance is a good excuse for poor results.  use the force Tom. Don't let the dark side take you. Once you cross over there will just be two of us............ Help me tikay wan. kinobi your my only hope...... Help me tikay wan kinobi. Your my only hope...... Help me tikay wan kinobi your my only hope

tikay wankinobi (who I portrayed on TV once, full costume, the lot, "my servant, you shall be") is too tired to keep flogging that horse, Jase, he's not Canute. But he still resolutely believes it was always so, & will always be so. I  admire your ability & courage to not only stand up to all the tide of hype, though, but to keep fighting back, you da man.



Poker isn't a results business at all. Dempsey, Kelly, Banzi banished from the coveted list for Keys and Rupert- will they be back in if they win again?

You have to admire the Cody's, Toby's, Tricky Sams, Keys, & Ruperts of the gung-ho brigade, though, too, they seem to get the job done plenty enough, & I respect them immensely, too.

[tikay]

Will accept my game is high variance coz you say it is but is it has to be less high variance than the guy getting it in bad all the time. If a guy is playing well running well and cashing a lot is he experiencing the opposite of variance. And what is the opposite of variance. I still maintain variance is a good excuse for poor results.  use the force Tom. Don't let the dark side take you. Once you cross over there will just be two of us............ Help me tikay wan. kinobi your my only hope...... Help me tikay wan kinobi. Your my only hope...... Help me tikay wan kinobi your my only hope

tikay wankinobi (who I portrayed on TV once, full costume, the lot, "my servant, you shall be") is too tired to keep flogging that horse, Jase, he's not Canute. But he still resolutely believes it was always so, & will always be so. I  admire your ability & courage to not only stand up to all the tide of hype, though, but to keep fighting back, you da man.



Poker isn't a results business at all. Dempsey, Kelly, Banzi banished from the coveted list for Keys and Rupert- will they be back in if they win again?

You have to admire the Cody's, Toby's, Tricky Sams, Keys, & Ruperts of the gung-ho brigade, though, too, they seem to get the job done plenty enough, & I respect them immensely, too.

Lol, knew I should not have named examples!

No no no, JP, Banzi, & plenty more all get just as much respect from me. And as to Dr Demps, his "serious" poker head is a thing of wonder, & he certainly gets the respect biscuit for that, without a shadow of doubt.

[Dubai]

It's just a funny old game. Where people seem to be flavour of the month and then forgotten. At least Andy Warhol was correct

[pokerfan]

It's just a funny old game. Where people seem to be flavour of the month and then forgotten. At least Andy Warhol was correct

Flushy and Toby are feeling it too.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=53274.msg1368173#msg1368173

[redarmi]

Talking of which does DPommo (formerly in Britains most eligible batchlor list iirc!!!) still play Dubai???

[Boba Fett]

Will accept my game is high variance coz you say it is but is it has to be less high variance than the guy getting it in bad all the time. If a guy is playing well running well and cashing a lot is he experiencing the opposite of variance. And what is the opposite of variance. I still maintain variance is a good excuse for poor results.  use the force Tom. Don't let the dark side take you. Once you cross over there will just be two of us............ Help me tikay wan. kinobi your my only hope...... Help me tikay wan kinobi. Your my only hope...... Help me tikay wan kinobi your my only hope

lol  Im never sure if you're joking or not.  Variance is mathematical fact.  Just because you play a low variance style it doesnt mean variance doesnt exist, it just means you spend less time on either side of it.

So in terms of B & C on the list, it is affected by style but never completely eliminated

[Dubai]

Talking of which does DPommo (formerly in Britains most eligible batchlor list iirc!!!) still play Dubai???

Yeah he does, he had moved to Sweden with a bird but he messaged me to say he is back last week

[Jon MW]

If a guy is playing well running well and cashing a lot is he experiencing the opposite of variance.

That just means he's on the positive side.

argh thank you. i'm so dumb sometimes . so there is positive and a negative side to varience. yes both me and titbeam are experiencing varience then. very intersting that we are at the opposite side of it. in the on lines i'm opposite to him and in lives i'm opposite to him. 

I thought about posting similar but the way I wrote it took a few paragraphs.

Like BobaFett said variance isn't just slang for luck, it's a mathematical term. People obviously do use it incorrectly but by and large the regular usage of it in poker is about right.

If you take the average or expected value of a hypothetical event
Then you graph the actual results of the event

The variance is a measure of how far away (on average) your actual results are from they hypothetical expected/average result

Above or below / positive or negative / good luck or bad luck isn't really relevant - it's just people tend to notice more when they're on the below average side of variance (and pretend to themselvesthat they are when they've just been playing bad)

[smashedagain]

Will accept my game is high variance coz you say it is but is it has to be less high variance than the guy getting it in bad all the time. If a guy is playing well running well and cashing a lot is he experiencing the opposite of variance. And what is the opposite of variance. I still maintain variance is a good excuse for poor results.  use the force Tom. Don't let the dark side take you. Once you cross over there will just be two of us............ Help me tikay wan. kinobi your my only hope...... Help me tikay wan kinobi. Your my only hope...... Help me tikay wan kinobi your my only hope

lol  Im never sure if you're joking or not.  Variance is mathematical fact.  Just because you play a low variance style it doesnt mean variance doesnt exist, it just means you spend less time on either side of it.

So in terms of B & C on the list, it is affected by style but never completely eliminated

i am always joking unless you dont find it funny then i'm being a twat. but if that is the case someone else will be findind it funny at your expense. the other time i am not joking is when i'm being serious but will then be seriously joking.

yep i'm up to speed with varience now and understand. it was just that it is being used by losers so i did not grasp it fully. i prefer losers to say i'm between rolls at the moment as i understand what they mean.
however i am gonna now tell people i am experiencing varience which is not a lie but may help to stop em nipping me everytime i get a draw....

and dave you are not yesterdays news but for the purposes of tonys point we needed to emphasise those players the opposite side to puberty than you.
dave shallow for wsop braclet or scoop.

[RED-DOG]

Sigh.

Put so many big hands down tonight, should have put this one down too....

I raise AK of broccoli and get two callers. Flop comes AQ, two tomato's.

I make it 2500, Mr Tilty McTilt pushes for 5k more.

Does he have AQ, or a salad draw....

I tell him he has AQ, then I call...

He shows AQ.

 

[Karabiner]

Don't expect any sympathy from tikay when it comes to brocolli.

I'm not exactly sure where he stands regarding tomatoes.