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« on: April 23, 2011, 12:32:58 PM »

Without any information, folding is wrong isn't it?  So what do i do on the flop?

PokerStars Game #58613728030: Tournament #409010704, $50+$5 USD Holdem No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2011/03/03 21:33:37 ART [2011/03/03 19:33:37 ET]
Table 409010704 29 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (14225 in chips)
Seat 2: Acir28 (14244 in chips)
Seat 3: ozzyrocks111 (19283 in chips)
Seat 4: DimaDima13 (7879 in chips)
Seat 5: serb2127 (10899 in chips)
Seat 6: Tonbanker (20171 in chips)
Seat 7: iloseflips24 (4240 in chips)
Seat 8: UhhMee (8111 in chips)
Seat 9: tiggy15 (28964 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 25
Acir28: posts the ante 25
ozzyrocks111: posts the ante 25
DimaDima13: posts the ante 25
serb2127: posts the ante 25
Tonbanker: posts the ante 25
iloseflips24: posts the ante 25
UhhMee: posts the ante 25
tiggy15: posts the ante 25
UhhMee: posts small blind 125
tiggy15: posts big blind 250

Holecards 
Dealt to Hero 
Hero: raises 375 to 625
Acir28: folds
ozzyrocks111: calls 625
DimaDima13: calls 625
serb2127: folds
Tonbanker: folds
iloseflips24: folds
UhhMee: folds
tiggy15: calls 375

Flop (Pot : $2,850.00)
 
   
tiggy15: bets 2250
Hero: raises 4500 to 6750
ozzyrocks111: raises 11883 to 18633 and is all-in
DimaDima13: folds
tiggy15: folds
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (11883) returned to ozzyrocks111
ozzyrocks111 collected 18600 from pot
ozzyrocks111: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot 18600 | Rake 0
Board 
Seat 1: Hero folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Acir28 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: ozzyrocks111 collected (18600)
Seat 4: DimaDima13 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: serb2127 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Tonbanker folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: iloseflips24 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: UhhMee (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: tiggy15 (big blind) folded on the Flop

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2011, 12:38:07 PM »

Flat flop.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2011, 12:40:24 PM »

Flat flop.

Easiest flat ever
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2011, 12:46:26 PM »

Yes I would bet slightly larger preflop too.  Flop is a tough spot and flatting on that flop is correct but as played i fold too.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2011, 01:00:49 PM »

Agree flat flop, but as played I call. I think Q-10 flats on a non flush board. So you are sometimes vs a set but often enough vs 10's or a pair with 10 combo or even A-J. I would prefer to take those hands on in a 30k+ pot having put half my stack in rather than fold and be left with less than 7k.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2011, 01:55:17 PM »

Has anyone said flat flop yet?
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2011, 02:59:01 PM »

Why are we flatting though?  My plan was to raise the original bettor on the flop and snap if he shoves, the guy last to act can only do what he did with vvv strong hand, so most of the time he folds. 

Surely i'm ahead of the donk bettors range?  Doesn't a flat let people see a turn card, many of which are bad for us?
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2011, 09:23:05 PM »

i believe that this is my area of expertise

this is just about the worst board you could see holding AA vs 3 villains. I mean if you watch outragouspoker live video series on 53774763673th level thinking you could probs fold to the donk tbh, but in reality its a call/fold

as played i think i cry fold and leave myself with 30bbs - but there are some (fairly poor) arguements for calling
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