Pocket Jacks

[George2Loose]

5th hand at table. What should we do here?!?

PokerStars Game #61934457862: Tournament #2011050082, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (75/150) - 2011/05/10 22:25:35 WET [2011/05/10 17:25:35 ET]
Table '2011050082 286' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: kloneranger (8258 in chips)
Seat 2: guinor (1782 in chips)
Seat 3: RUNITSRANN (8890 in chips)
Seat 4: AceKicker_19 (12462 in chips)
Seat 5: SebbyGl (9560 in chips)
Seat 6: bovvah13 (10854 in chips)
Seat 7: George2Loose (9930 in chips)
Seat 8: mcfaroe (18467 in chips)
Seat 9: AndASodaPop (14076 in chips)
kloneranger: posts the ante 20
guinor: posts the ante 20
RUNITSRANN: posts the ante 20
AceKicker_19: posts the ante 20
SebbyGl: posts the ante 20
bovvah13: posts the ante 20
George2Loose: posts the ante 20
mcfaroe: posts the ante 20
AndASodaPop: posts the ante 20
bovvah13: posts small blind 75
George2Loose: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ ]
mcfaroe: folds
AndASodaPop: raises 200 to 350
kloneranger: folds
guinor: raises 1412 to 1762 and is all-in
RUNITSRANN: folds
AceKicker_19: folds
SebbyGl: folds
bovvah13: folds
George2Loose:

[Ironside]

I can only see the option to shove, can't justify a fold, calling is tez and a raise any smaller is horrid with stacks

[Royal Flush]

Ermm couldn't disagree more, flat is best imo

[MANTIS01]

The first three opinions are shove, call, fold. Ha, who says jacks are tricky to play? Your oppos should have wide ranges for their respective moves so I would be confident of having the best hand here. Rule out fold. Calling gives you a better chance of stacking a worse hand than pushing does. Pushing is more straightforward.

[skolsuper]

My 1st thought was also to call, but on reflection I slightly prefer a shove. Neither is "tez" tho.

[smashedagain]

My 1st thought was also to call, but on reflection I slightly prefer a shove. Neither is "tez" tho.

this but then again on reflecting my reflection would not have been  to bothered about getting timed out and the software folded for me.
i would then have let the babies finish the game on AND GOT OUT OF THE HOUSE A BIT MORE

[tufat23]

call

[George2Loose]

I called. Opener called

Flop 

Best line now?

[kinboshi]

Without any more information, I'm flatting this pre.  Not sure I like shoving at all with our stack size and the size of the all-in. 

Meh at the flop.

We're assuming AndASodaPop called too?    Check/raise is probably my line - reassess on the turn?

[redarmi]

Call pre but don't think shoving is awful.  Now I bet and call it off I suppose.  Horrible spot though.

[MANTIS01]

I like the flop. Three undercards and fd is a good flop for us. Pot-size bet left so happy to get the chips in. Because the smooth call strategy pre was to get worse to bluff post I do a check and hopefully make that a reality. You can't bet fold and jamming only achieves what jamming pre would have. So yeah check jam or check call imo.

[WotRTheChances]

Flat pre I like, not convinced the shove accomplishes a lot more than putting your stack at risk, getting snapped by better. So i assume pot is just under 5.5k, cba to work it out. Leaving just over 8k back. Flop i lead like 2.5k. Looks like a pretty good board, hands like 77-TT and AT+ (probably the majority of original-raisers range here) if you're getting it in you're in great shape, assuming 77-TT may get it in club or no club and the Ax range could include AcXx, which you get it in in decent shape against.

Do previous posters suggesting check-shoving here allows villain to check behind too often with the AcXx/AX or even any PP to peel a free one? Seems unlikely to me you would get more value from check-shoving than bet-calling.

JJ being my favourite hand... felt obliged to post...  

[DMorgan]

Bet/call the flop

Hope to hold vs   x

[George2Loose]

Bet called. He had a 6 with another 6

[NigDawG]

lol so its just a bad beat story